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PostSubject: asroma history   asroma history EmptyFri May 30, 2008 8:16 pm

The "asromammerda" corporation proudly presents:

When, where, how and why the hell were the merde founded?
The difficulties met in the attempt to find some answers



The first problem that I met was the date of foundation. Now, the year is 1927, there is no doubt about that. The problem is when it comes to the day. I couldn’t find a general consensus. In this situation of doubt, I followed the mainstream, arguing that the date of foundation is 22nd of July. Now, this date is supported by the result, by majority voting, of a poll held some time ago, so we should give it credit. Concerning the fact that there is still a not general consensus, the only thing we can do is hope that they should manage to agree on a date before the centenary comes (they still have some time).

After solving the riddle of the date of foundation, my research kept going smoothly. Roma was created by merging three pre-existing football clubs Alba, Roman and Fortitudo (all of them trashed many times by Lazio already). Well, I have to say that imho there is not much honour in being created in such a way but you know… it happened! Sure it’s not their fault. Simply, they were not as lucky as us.

They took the name of the city, the colours of the council. Where would you then expect them to have their first football ground? In the city centre, of course. You can’t imagine my disappointment when I found out that that they did not! In their first period they used to train at Velodromo Appio, outside the city. What’s puzzling is that I couldn’t find this info on their website… you would think that they are ashamed in saying that do not belong to roma and omitted that. I don’t think so. They just forgot.

You could think that the most disappointing thing in this research was to have to look at their so inelegant colours (to say the least). No, thankfully I have a strong stomach. The problem, seriously, was that there was not much information.
“Shit, how is this possible?” I thought “I’m sure that there is something wrong. A great football club so important as asroma must has certainly played a great role in Italian football. Yes, right, clubs like Inter, Juve, Milan and Lazio have been founded before so deserve a bigger honour, but that’s only a matter of few clubs. Damnit, I’m sure Roma comes just afterwards, and of course they must be among the very first football clubs in Italy. So I decide to do a bit of research on that, here follows the list.”


Lazio 1900
Alessandria1912
Ancona1905
Atalanata1907
Avellino1912
Avezzano1909
Bologna1909
Brescia1911
Cagliari1920
Campobasso 1919
Carpi 1909
Castelnuovo1922
Catanese1908
Cervia 1920
Como1907
Cosenza1914
Cremonese1903
Empoli1920
Faenza1912
Fermana1920
Fiorenzuola1922
Fiorerntina1926
Giorgione1911
Giulianova1924
Gualdo 1920
Gubbio 1910
Imolese 1919
Inter1908
Lecce1908
Lecco 1912
Livorno 1915
Lucchese 1905
Maceratese 1922
Marsala 191912
Meta 1913
Modena 1912
Montevarchi 1902
Monza1912
Napoli1926
Nocerina 1910
Novara 1908
Padova 1910
Parma1913
Perugia1905
Piacenza1919
Pisa 1909
Pontedera 1912
Prato 1908
Pro Patria 1909
Pro Sesto 1913
Ravenna1913
Reggiana 1919
Reggina1914
Rimini 1913
Salernitana1919
San Dona’ 1922
Sanremese 1904
Saronno 1910
Sassari Torres 1903
Sassuolo 1922
Savoia1908
Siena 1904
Sora 1907
Spal 1907
Spezia 1906
Teramo 1913
Ternana1925
Torino1906
Treviso 1909
Triestina 1918
Varese 1910
Venezia1907
Viareggio 1919
Vicenza 1902
Viterbese 1908

Can you see roma in there?


Ok now I am serious. Not that what I’ve just said is bullshit… it’s all true.

If you look at their websites on their history pages you actually realise how much the fact that Lazio has a great story and is the first football club in rome hurts them. It hurts a lot. They are just pathetic in their words that try to convince themselves that this is not true. Invidiosi e complessati, exactly as we reminded them in a derby a few years ago.

Anyway, as a Laziale I am really happy about the existence of Roma. This shitty football team has already gifted Laziali many nice memories, and we thankfully acknowledge it here, in this topic.

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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptySat May 31, 2008 1:49 pm

Well, they exist for 81 years now, have 3 "scudetti", 9 Italian cups and 2 Supercups, though they don't have significant Euro trophy like Lazio does. I don't think their performance is so "pathetic".
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptySat May 31, 2008 10:15 pm

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Well, they exist for 81 years now, have 3 "scudetti", 9 Italian cups and 2 Supercups, though they don't have significant Euro trophy like Lazio does. I don't think their performance is so "pathetic".

We think so, romoletto.
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptySun Jun 01, 2008 2:05 am

UCST wrote:
Well, they exist for 81 years now, have 3 "scudetti", 9 Italian cups and 2 Supercups, though they don't have significant Euro trophy like Lazio does. I don't think their performance is so "pathetic".

I smell a rat with a bruco up its ass!
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptySun Jun 01, 2008 2:39 am

UCST wrote:
Well, they exist for 81 years now, have 3 "scudetti", 9 Italian cups and 2 Supercups, though they don't have significant Euro trophy like Lazio does. I don't think their performance is so "pathetic".

there's no room here for those who are sympathetic to roma

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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptySun Jun 01, 2008 9:35 am

Jester wrote:
We think so, romoletto.

You're far far away from reality...

By the way, I was part of the old Laziofever forum, though with different nickname...
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptySun Jun 01, 2008 7:00 pm

UCST wrote:
Jester wrote:
We think so, romoletto.

You're far far away from reality...

By the way, I was part of the old Laziofever forum, though with different nickname...

always been...

"Romulus", perhaps?
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 1:24 pm

Yeah, bullseye... But better luck next time, "Sherlock"-s...
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 2:49 pm

Their recent Coppas have come when Inter have used their reserves.
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 5:26 pm

UCST wrote:
Yeah, bullseye... But better luck next time, "Sherlock"-s...


Right.. Romulus had a brain, after all.
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 8:00 pm

Ah...one of my favorite past times of the old days at Laziomania and fever...

Watching and reading a rioma fan waste countless hours in OUR forum instead of their own...

18, romulus...etc

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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 9:00 pm

I dont give a s..t about asroma history No No No


FORZA LAZIO asroma history 365200 asroma history 365200
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 10:50 pm

UCST wrote:
Well, they exist for 81 years now, have 3 "scudetti", 9 Italian cups and 2 Supercups, though they don't have significant Euro trophy like Lazio does. I don't think their performance is so "pathetic".


You are right! I agree with you, their performances are consistently good! And very fast too! In fact, in the last seasons, every year they had already won the Scudetto and the Champions League already by October!!!
They also keep a number of fantastic records!

But of course there is no surprise! They have three (3) players who won (or are going to win) the golden ball, they play the best football in Italy and in Europe! They could have won more, but there was a "plot against them", and besides, they have been very unlucky.
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 11:15 pm

Conn wrote:
UCST wrote:
Well, they exist for 81 years now, have 3 "scudetti", 9 Italian cups and 2 Supercups, though they don't have significant Euro trophy like Lazio does. I don't think their performance is so "pathetic".


You are right! I agree with you, their performances are consistently good! And very fast too! In fact, in the last seasons, every year they had already won the Scudetto and the Champions League already by October!!!
They also keep a number of fantastic records!

But of course there is no surprise! They have three (3) players who won (or are going to win) the golden ball, they play the best football in Italy and in Europe! They could have won more, but there was a "plot against them", and besides, they have been very unlucky.

let me add that the only true, regular and deserved titles of the Italian football history were won in 1942, 1983 and 2001.

The remaing scudetti were a fraud, needless to say...

P.S. the three golden balls had to be awarded in the same year, but the plot still operates...
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptyThu Jun 19, 2008 5:01 am

I guess people have nicknamed them "roma magica" cause they made magic reaching scudetto with such a crappy team hahahaha asroma history 902479
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptyThu Jun 19, 2008 5:02 pm

Thiago wrote:
I guess people have nicknamed them "roma magica" cause they made magic reaching scudetto with such a crappy team hahahaha asroma history 902479

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You'r funny garotinho asroma history 893533
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptyMon Aug 18, 2008 12:47 pm

Franco Sensi is 'history'
he died last night
15 years of ASR, 1 scudetto and 2 cups ... RIP
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptyMon Aug 25, 2008 2:31 am

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/aug24u.html

Add this to their history. Tottina misses penalty in the shootout and Inter win SuperCoppa! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptyMon Aug 25, 2008 12:12 pm

Inter deserved the trophy.... tottina seems to be missing several penalty kicks over the last few seasons Very Happy keep it up mate!
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptySun Apr 12, 2009 6:37 pm

Conn (or someone other who is ITK Very Happy ), can you post some more interesting stuff considering the "history" of Riomma? Something like the situation with their first stadium, I found that pretty interesting. For instance - did the government "help" them sometimes, how did they gathered fan masses, etc.

I think that putting facts will be quite better and useful than just spitting at their every move.
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptyTue Apr 14, 2009 2:33 am

UCST wrote:
Conn (or someone other who is ITK Very Happy ), can you post some more interesting stuff considering the "history" of Riomma? Something like the situation with their first stadium, I found that pretty interesting. For instance - did the government "help" them sometimes, how did they gathered fan masses, etc.

I think that putting facts will be quite better and useful than just spitting at their every move.

Ah, man, screew them, I'll rather spitt at them, titty and co dosen't deserve better. asroma history 902479
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptyTue Apr 14, 2009 3:59 pm

Of course screw them too. Very Happy
But I like when arguing with one to throw facts in his face and watch him going mad. asroma history 902479
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptyWed Apr 15, 2009 9:38 pm

UCST wrote:
Conn (or someone other who is ITK Very Happy ), can you post some more interesting stuff considering the "history" of Riomma? Something like the situation with their first stadium, I found that pretty interesting. For instance - did the government "help" them sometimes, how did they gathered fan masses, etc.

I think that putting facts will be quite better and useful than just spitting at their every move.


Didn't you find that post interesting? Very Happy

I'll post more about you questions, but first you have to help me in solving this terrible riddle Very Happy




the gobbels' chronicles proudly present: when/where was this club founded?

Every time I say, write or read “S.S. Lazio, 9 January 1900”, my minds goes to Piazza della Liberta’: there, I see the commemorative plate dedicated to the oldest polisportiva of the city. Very nice, indeed. What about asroma commemorative plate? We still didn’t talk about that, so today’s history bit is dedicated to it. Let’s get started, then.

AsRoma foundation: the commemorative plate

Let’s start immediately by saying that there is not any commemorative plate for asroma foundation. I’m sorry with our guests reading if I generated false hopes with my introduction, but that’s the truth: no commemorative plate (not yet, at least).

There is not much we can do about it. What we can do, is try to understand why they still do not have a commemorative plate.

Firstly, we have to say that not having any commemorative plate depends unfortunately on the fact that they don’t actually know almost anything about their foundation. As we will see below, not only they do not know the date, but they do not even know the place! And if you don’t know the place, where the f”ck are you going to put the plate? More about this later.
Let me start by saying that we should give them some credit, because they did try to have a commemorative plate. Things are like that: at some point, a guy named Massimo Izzi comes up with an article claiming “with absolute certainty” that asroma was founded in Via Forlì, n16 the day 7 June 1927.

You cannot imagine you relieved romanisti were after that article: they finally had the date!!! Filled with enthusiasm, they obtained from Roma City Council the permission to install a commemorative plate on the building at Via Forlì. Do you know what happened next? The co-owners of that building didn’t give them the permission to install that plate on their building! ahahah ahahahahahah I can’t stop laughing … sorry I know it doesn’t look very professional but I can’t help it ahahahah ahahahahah ahahahahah.

Ok, stop laughing now please. Back to history. In the reminder of this post I just want to give you some proof about how confused they are about their origin (we already talked about it in general terms). Bear with me, it’s going to be interesting.

Let’s start with asromaultras.it the most important non-official asroma website. They stick to the Izzi’s theory and write: “aroma was founded in Via Forlì n.16 on 7 June 1927. This is absolutely certain

Absolutely certain? Ummmm…. Not really according to www.asroma-calcio.com. They do not even agree on the place, and write “the constitutional act was signed on 22 July 1927 at Via degli Uffici del Vicario n.35

Ok, I’m getting confused. Let’s have a look at what the official asroma website has to say. Well, they adopted a risk-adverse strategy and decided to be “vague about it”: “aroma was founded in July 1927 from the merge of Alba, Roman and Fortitudo”. Disappointing, you would expect more from the official website (even a fake date would do).

So, which is the conclusion? Well, you know from elementary school that if you want to infer the value of an unknown parameter and you got a sample of values, the best way is to compute some kind of average. This seems indeed the solution adopted by dossier.net. They write: “the day 8 July 1927, Alba, Fortitudo and Roman originates asroma”.

I am speechless... confused...
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptyThu Apr 16, 2009 1:01 am

Conn wrote:
You cannot imagine you relieved romanisti were after that article: they finally had the date!!! Filled with enthusiasm, they obtained from Roma City Council the permission to install a commemorative plate on the building at Via Forlì. Do you know what happened next? The co-owners of that building didn’t give them the permission to install that plate on their building! ahahah ahahahahahah I can’t stop laughing … sorry I know it doesn’t look very professional but I can’t help it ahahahah ahahahahah ahahahahah.

Bahahahahahh!!!!

Oh man, that is hilarious, I'm in stitches! Ahahah, too much Conn, too much!!

*wipes tear*

Top stuff Conn, millie grazie Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: asroma history   asroma history EmptyThu Apr 16, 2009 1:09 am

The part about them not allowed to install the plate on the building is truly golden! Very Happy Forza Conn!
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