Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3

20 mil for kolarov? SEEEELLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!

If I were Balla, I wouldn't ask Zapater, why would we want another DM? Genoa has a lot of exciting young talents, we should try to do business with them, Ledesma for half Criscito and half Bocchetti, we are very much covered (left back) if Kolarov did leave us next june.

yes,for 20 millions(dont forget to say thank you-to kollarov).
for 20 m lottito will buy "a 40% of the young promising players of seria-b" .
anyway if this is tru with all respect for kollarov(he dont want to stay) but he isnt worth 20m-take money
then easily we can by cannini-some good midlefielder and use the money to renuwal contract with zarate and muslera(to block them)-my opinion

Brazilian striker Fred is putting himself in the shop window to find a European club willing to sign him.

The 26 year-old is keen to leave Brazilian club Fluminese and it is thought that any club willing to pay €1.2M would be able to capture his signature. He is keen to tie up a deal in the next ten days before Fluminese begins pre-season training, or else he will likely stay in Brazil.

Fred enjoyed a successful season at Fluminese last year, scoring 14 goals in 23 games. Prior to that, he had four excellent years at French club Lyon, starring in the Champions League.

During his time in France, Fred played 9 times for the Brazilian national team, scoring 4 goals.

http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-article/Brazilian-striker-Fred-desperately-looking-for-European-club/4786/

I know we do not need a striker, but if we could offload Cruz and Makinwa.

€1.2M? BARGAIN!

That is a bargain!!!

1.2 million Euros for a player of Fred's quality is hard to believe - but its unlikely considering how many strikers Lazio currently have. But as you said BB, if Lotito offloads players like Inzaghi, Makinwa and perhaps Cruz then why not?



I also read that Lotito is said to be having talks with Genoa about Zapater and Esposito. Both talented players who I would dearly welcome here but maybe not what we need at the moment. Zapater is a very good defensive midfielder but Lazio lack some creativity right now. Also, players like Firmani, Brocchi and Baronio all play in a similar position and have done admirable jobs this season. Esposito however is very interesting as he is versatile all over the defense.

Also a deal with Fiorentina for Ledesma appears to be looking more likely now because Lotito does not want to suffer the same ordeal the Pandev saga ended with. Terrific news - if it is to be believed!

Bridge-Bhoy wrote:

Brazilian striker Fred is putting himself in the shop window to find a European club willing to sign him.

The 26 year-old is keen to leave Brazilian club Fluminese and it is thought that any club willing to pay €1.2M would be able to capture his signature. He is keen to tie up a deal in the next ten days before Fluminese begins pre-season training, or else he will likely stay in Brazil.

Fred enjoyed a successful season at Fluminese last year, scoring 14 goals in 23 games. Prior to that, he had four excellent years at French club Lyon, starring in the Champions League.

During his time in France, Fred played 9 times for the Brazilian national team, scoring 4 goals.

http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-article/Brazilian-striker-Fred-desperately-looking-for-European-club/4786/

I know we do not need a striker, but if we could offload Cruz and Makinwa.

€1.2M? BARGAIN!

Fred won't come here....

if he comes, it's because of the among other reasons:
- Lotito is offering a big salary (bigger salary than any other club offer);
- Balla offers him a place in the starting eleven;
- Makinwa and inzaghi could be upload immediately;
- There's no any other club better than Lazio wants him; and
- Fred has EU passport

the first four were 99% impossible, the latest i don't know about it...

If we had someone to take Inzaghi, Makinwa and gave up Cruz who wants to retire then I would make him an offer. Would be difficult to see him choosing us though, I'm sure there will be several interested parties. Why did he go back to Brazil after Lyon?

Reports today that Inter wants to take Kolarov this january due to Chivu's injury. I think we could try to ask Morratti as much as we could for this deal, we are destined to lose him sooner or later.

We are doing out best to offload Eliseu and Makinwa. Eliseu has reportedly gone to Zaragoza to do some talks, and we are trying every possible club to offload Makinwa, including Livorno who are not really interested.

So if we get rid of those two then there are only 34 players in the squad

Admitedly included are the likes of Iannarilli, Inzaghi, Sevieri, Baretto, Luciani, Perpetuini, Bonetto, Artipoli, Berni, Faraoni, Ledesma, Manfredini and also Cruz and Bizzarri but all of these players need their situation to be sorted out. Some will ask for first team football and others will ask for a transfer and like wise men say there's no time like the present.

Already there are arguments over substitutions and we have players for 3 squads already.

From tuttomercato web - precentages of chance for departure and possible destinations

IN USCITA

Eliseu (Centrocampista, Real Saragozza) 99%
Ledesma (Centrocampista, Juventus, Napoli, Genoa, Fiorentina) 90%
Artipoli (Difensore) 90%
Bonetto (Difensore) 90%
Manfredini (Centrocampista) 90%
Bizzarri (Portiere, Racing de Avellaneda) 80%
Makinwa (Attaccante, Livorno, Real Saragozza) 75%
Inzaghi (Attaccante, Cosenza) 50%
Foggia (Centrocampista, Catania, Atalanta, Napoli) 40%
Rocchi (Attaccante, Fiorentina, Palermo, Zenit) 35%

zarate an arsenal target. They said to be ready to meeet the 40 million euro price tag.

I swear...

I don't believe that Wenger will give so much money for 1 player .. he likes to take cheap young talents and make them stars.

all the rumours about wenger saying hes willing to spend a lot of money have me a lil scared if u ask me.

valdanito_10 wrote:

zarate an arsenal target. They said to be ready to meeet the 40 million euro price tag.

I swear...

And who set that price tag? Hahaha Wenger has no idea who he is dealing with!! Lotito indebted himself for the next 5 years and to think that he would only double his money is ludicrous!! Lotito would ask for half of Arsenal and 40mill

rememeber the clause in zarates contract?
minimum fee release? its 40 buddy

valdanito_10 wrote:

rememeber the clause in zarates contract?
minimum fee release? its 40 buddy

Notice what I bolded. No way in hell will Lotito accept the minimum. No way in hell.

But you're right, it's good that there's atleast the clause.

i thought he had to accept if someone made the bid.


anyone care to clear this minimum fee release clause thing.

It means that that is the starting price, and even then the club/player does not have to accept the offer. It's like the minimum price at the auction. If the player is really keen on leaving then he can threaten to break the contract and ask to be sold for the buyout clause figure, but that's the lowest price in that case. And in other cases the clubs and player can agree to set the price lower than the clause (for instance Messi has a clause for 100mill€, C.Ronaldo even more).
Usually it's the agents who influence the player not to break contracts because the higher the transfer value is the higher their commision.

Sile wrote:

It means that that is the starting price, and even then the club/player does not have to accept the offer. It's like the minimum price at the auction. If the player is really keen on leaving then he can threaten to break the contract and ask to be sold for the buyout clause figure, but that's the lowest price in that case. And in other cases the clubs and player can agree to set the price lower than the clause (for instance Messi has a clause for 100mill€, C.Ronaldo even more).
Usually it's the agents who influence the player not to break contracts because the higher the transfer value is the higher their commision.

I've only heard of release clauses and if the price is met, the club must accept the offer. Never heard of a minimum release clause.. sounds strange.

And Ballas outburst against Zarate in the media today doesn't look too good either, his agent says Zarate starts to get tired of Lazio. Can be bullshit but i really hopes he stays and matures! Star in the making, keep him happy and get rid of the coach instead

and if wenger spend all 40m in one player I M 90% shure that he will spend him on zarate(he have everything that wenger wants)

is just another roumor or ledema is very near to sign for juve(5 mil.)?

rumours:
Kolarov to Real 20 mil
Zarate to Arsenal 40 mil
Ledesma to Juve for free

certainty Eliseu to Zaragoza (loan), Floccari in.

we made some moves to get Canini (though a move seems far...)

my ideas would be to ask 1-2 players instead of part of the money from Real and Arsenal...possibilities:
Metzelder (Real), Drenthe (Real), Carlos Vela (Arsenal), Senderos (Arsenal).

[quote="drazvan"]rumours:
Kolarov to Real 20 mil
quote]

Is that just for his left foot? Add another 5mil for his right foot & another 5mil because he is so young. I really dont want to let this guy go.

Incidentally, how much did we pick him up for?

[quote="Kris"]

drazvan wrote:

rumours:
Kolarov to Real 20 mil
quote]

Is that just for his left foot? Add another 5mil for his right foot & another 5mil because he is so young. I really dont want to let this guy go.

Incidentally, how much did we pick him up for?

800,000 €. So for every season his value rises 10xi initial transfer. Also I think he is among the lowest salary-wise.

Kolarov and Nando get very low wages. If we dont want to lose them, and show that we are to keep them in the long run, they deserve proper contract extension. If not, less ell them and continue losing the few good players we have...

Arsenal would never pay 40 for Mauro. But I feel something is going on...