Serie A, BARI-LAZIO, Sunday, 25-10-09

centrocampista wrote:

Caxi wrote:

Jofo wrote:

Has anyone notice that in every Lazio games thread the topic barely reach 4-5 pages

Sorry Caxi but unlike you I can't cheer at deaf ears. People give out of their pockets to go and watch the game, people do that for the sake of love and passion. The case for the ones down there is not the same, they get millions to do the job.



Something is very rotten in Lazio.......Forza Lazio anyway, but with a bitter smile.

If I could sit in the Curva, I would not be wasting my breath shouting, Lotito Vattene, Ballardini Vattene etc. That's not my idea of love or passion.

If a girlfriend conjures you up a really romantic meal but the food was dire, you might tell her so but you certainly don't shout abuse at her. Well, I don't, put it that way...

How about if your girlfriend did that to you 8 times out of 10?

Love your comments Centro...

Roman_Eagle wrote:

My opinion is that we need a new coach..I've never been satisfied with the games we play under Ballardini. We need a big name, some who is already established a name in that profession

I was wondering how long it would take before the vultures start to circle. Lets not be fickle yet. As a previous poster said, we are only 5 points from the top 4. And with 29 rounds to go, and a summer transfer period ahead, i think there is ample time to turn things around.

If we are still in this predicament at round 20-25, then i will join the vultures. But for now, i am confident we will turn our form around.

FORZA LAZIO

Caxi wrote:

What can we do about it? Well, did you see the number 12 out there? Of course you didn't because that's our Curva but our twelth man is missing. All I learned from the game today is what I saw in the ChatBox; a bunch of individuals who did not act like a 12th man, who would rather point the finger at anybody but themselves. I assume that ill feeling surrounds Rome but just because none of us like the situation doesn't mean we can't uphold values we have sustained for 109 and soon to be 110 years.

That shows you really know really very little about what's going on at Lazio, and how biassed you are in your judgements. My compliments.

Bari is not the easiest away match; nonetheless many people went there today to support the team and witness another humiliating defeat. Last thursday, against Villareal, we chanted until the very end, supporting the team up to the victory. We are always there.

I heard chants today, as well as I did on Thursday and every other week and game that our Lazio plays. It is just crazy to state that the 12th man isnt around anymore. Honestly, pure Bullshit from the people claiming so. This "I will protect Lotito justbecause everyone else is against him" argumentation is making me sick. he is killing our club, and people try to find others to blame...

I've watched Bari this year couple of times and they impressed me as very tough and balanced team. So it's not a surprise with the view of our game this week and all other problems we have.
Chins up guys !

We are living on the edge. 5 points from our objective goal and 5 points from relegation. As we have seen thus far there are no guarantees, and even when we're playing great lady luck is often not on our side.

We have to start playing smarter, learn from mistakes, study our opponents and find their weaknesses, and for the love of god stick to one formation.

No more rash fouls that lead to red cards.
No more discussing with referees which leads to red cards.
No more diving, faking, stalling, which leads to red cards.

For fuck sake end the game with 11 players on the pitch, start creating chances and play like a team, that's not much to ask.

Conn wrote:

Caxi wrote:

What can we do about it? Well, did you see the number 12 out there? Of course you didn't because that's our Curva but our twelth man is missing. All I learned from the game today is what I saw in the ChatBox; a bunch of individuals who did not act like a 12th man, who would rather point the finger at anybody but themselves. I assume that ill feeling surrounds Rome but just because none of us like the situation doesn't mean we can't uphold values we have sustained for 109 and soon to be 110 years.

That shows you really know really very little about what's going on at Lazio, and how biassed you are in your judgements. My compliments.

Bari is not the easiest away match; nonetheless many people went there today to support the team and witness another humiliating defeat. Last thursday, against Villareal, we chanted until the very end, supporting the team up to the victory. We are always there.

It was more in relation to the discussion in the ChatBox and how that may or may not reflect things in Rome but since you raised the issue, your views are hardly what I call supportive but we've had that discussion. I've lost a lot of respect for you; you turn a topic I declare myself out of into a personal attack, probably because you couldn't muster a response while we were actually having a civilised discussion and as I said to you before on more than one occasion, I never degrade myself to such a point. If you're going to do that to all my replies then I guess everybody else around here is going to have to put up with that.

Anyway, back to the topic and the point you raised, too many times in the previous 2-3 seasons have the fans stepped out of line in my opinion. I'm just reiterating that we could really do with rallying behind the guys and making an extra effort. I don't think that's too much to ask.

Can't say I'm too surprised. Bari are a good side with a strong defense, and at home they are even better. They fully deserved their victory. I was hoping for a better performance from our boys however but sadly we didn't get that. Good to see the Lazio fans present and singing at the San Nicola.

I don't blame Ballardini entirely for this defeat - even though his substitute decisions are at times weird, as are his experimentation's with the formation. Clearly fatigue is affecting the team badly, as is not having a good enough squad depth, and in some games the commitment and motivation of the players seems to be missing.

However its not all gloom. As someone previously pointed out we are only a few points away from a European spot, but also 5 away from relegation. The season is only 9 games in, Lazio are doing well in the Europa League, so there is still time to get things right - but I hope Ballardini and the team gets it together fast because we can't afford to lose so many points so early in the season.

FORZA LAZIO!

Not very surprised. Bari is solid at home and it's no secret that Lazio doesn't perform very well against sides like them, Catania and for example Siena. We had some bad results lately but I don't blame neither Ballardini or the team. Actually when the mercato closed this was pretty much what I expected. Well, not four points in the last seven games, but us having to battle below the top 10 in Serie A.

Sack or replace Ballardini? Don't agree. We used all our energy on thursday and just because he isn't able to get his best out of his players every game doesn't say he has done a bad job. Everyone are entitled to mistakes and today was the first time I saw Ballardini actually say some harsch things about the performence and his team. Very revealing.

Dept is not having 40 players willing to fight for the jersey where more then half of them are just mediocre football players. Dept is a compact group with 22,23 players all able to step in and deliver when other players needs to rest. It's not Ballardini's fault that the squad is weeker then last season and that he hasn't got the same tools to work with as Rossi. It's not Ballardini's fault that we learned nothing from last time we played in two different competitions.

Ballardini said himself after the game today that Lazio is different compared to last season. Even if he pointed out it was meant as no excuse and it gave a reason to fight even harder, he said that other then Ledesma and Pandev, Lazio is also without De Silvestri and Rozehnal this season. Then he pointed out, as so many times before, that Lazio plays in the Europa League thursday.

Altough four points in the last seven games of course is a terrible stat, I don't think the problem is our manager.

I blame the current problems on lack of action in the previous mercato. When we knew we were qualified for european competition we should have made actions to bring capable players in to bolster the squad for the long season we faced. We didn't and we a going to experience many more games like this.

I can't believe we've made this mistake after the 07-08 season, which was only 2 seasons ago. We qualified for the Champions league and we suffered throughout the campaign due to fatigue from playing the extra games midweek.

Not only did we make the mistake of not bringing in extra recruits we sidelined two good players due to contract disputes. Is Lazio really in a strong enough position to bench two good players over contract disputes? Would it not have been better to sell these players rather let them rot in the reserves just to make a point. Very childish and short sighted actions.

Also to the guys blaming Ballardini, seriously how many managers do we have to go through to realise that the clubs' problem does not lie with coaching, tactics and team selection.

Caxi wrote:

It was more in relation to the discussion in the ChatBox

The chatbox didnt seem much different to any other day.

Just because we dont feel the need to write "NON MOLLARE MAI" every five minutes doesnt mean we have given up.You are almost turning it into a game of who supports Lazio most.

Pointless!

Kris wrote:

Roman_Eagle wrote:

My opinion is that we need a new coach..I've never been satisfied with the games we play under Ballardini. We need a big name, some who is already established a name in that profession

I was wondering how long it would take before the vultures start to circle. Lets not be fickle yet. As a previous poster said, we are only 5 points from the top 4. And with 29 rounds to go, and a summer transfer period ahead, i think there is ample time to turn things around.

If we are still in this predicament at round 20-25, then i will join the vultures. But for now, i am confident we will turn our form around.

FORZA LAZIO

I'm against Ballardini since the beginning. We play like we just got promoted form seria B and we are rookies and our squad is just from unknown primavera players. No passion, no ideas, no nothing.

Caxi wrote:

It was more in relation to the discussion in the ChatBox and how that may or may not reflect things in Rome but since you raised the issue, your views are hardly what I call supportive but we've had that discussion. I've lost a lot of respect for you; you turn a topic I declare myself out of into a personal attack, probably because you couldn't muster a response while we were actually having a civilised discussion and as I said to you before on more than one occasion, I never degrade myself to such a point. If you're going to do that to all my replies then I guess everybody else around here is going to have to put up with that.

Anyway, back to the topic and the point you raised, too many times in the previous 2-3 seasons have the fans stepped out of line in my opinion. I'm just reiterating that we could really do with rallying behind the guys and making an extra effort. I don't think that's too much to ask.

It seems to me you like to play the part of the victim. There was nothing personal in my post, but if you like to see it in that way do as you like. I will manage to sleep even after knowing I lost your respect.

Back to the topic. Pandev and Ledesma have been replaced adequately, we don't need them back, we are a competitive team which can play a match on every 3 days, but unfortunately Lazio misses the support of the fans, who let the team down too many times in the last seasons. Ok... ok.
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I agree with Johan and David, the true problem is not Ballardini and we (we?) have not learnt from the past. There was a very deep article today by Vincenzo Cerracchio on Messaggero...

i didnt watch the game,just saw the highlights...our one shots on the target(from 30meters),they kill us,we could lose with 3 or 4,shame