Goran Pandev

Kris wrote:

Goran is now an Inter player on holiday in Rome as far as im concerned.

That is the biggest true. Good luck to him in the Inter shirt, but not in the games against Lazio. Let's leave this GP Saga behind us, cause Lazio has biggest problems right now that Pandev and Ledesma.

NITRO wrote:

And all you need to do is to watch the way Lazio is playing and say..... Lotito you stupid fuck.... If you are true fan of Lazio you will see it that Lotito is not bigger then Lazio.... And Lotito is not the coach of Lazio to say who can or can not play... After watching the game against "GRANDE CAGLIARI" I can now easy say that without Pandev and Ledesma Lazio is dead team.... It backs me to the previous season for United... God knows that Man Utd would have won nothing if Ronaldo got suspended buy Alex Ferguson for declaring that he wants to leave for Real... For god sake Pandev is not Baronio, Mauri, Siviglia, Makinwa.... Pandev is a player that can make a diference and that kind of players must be treated deferent... Lazio have Pandev for one year... And because of Lotito he is not helping his team-mates... Ledesma also... You can say that Pandev is Yuda or a money grabing whore... but he neather once said a bad word about Lazio.... And Lazio fans for that matter... He only said that he dislikes Lotito... And you all defend that ego-maniac.... You are all saying that Team >>>> Player.... FACT.... But LAZIO IS ALSO BIGGER THEN LOTITO... So lotito you son of someone.... GET PANDEV AND LEDESMA BACK IN THE FIRST TEAM because its enough...

I'm watching and I'm telling you that it wouldn't help if we brought Ibrahimovic cause right now there is no one who will pass him the ball right (except maybe Lichti or Kolarov). I see you gave an example with Ronaldo : OK ask yourself this : IF Ronaldo was going to Real FOR FREE would SAF put him to play? and the answer is NO. He would bench him. And I'll tell you why Ronaldo kept playing: To be in form cause MONEY IS MONEY and a player in his top shape is worth more than a player that doesn't play. I hope you get the picture now.

and the problem is not Pandev and Ledesma not playing. I doubt that they are sooo good friends with the squad and everybody misses them so they play like sh/t out of nostalgia for them. WE ARE NOT EVEN PLAYING DECENT FOOTBALL!!!!!!! This is it. Change Ballardini with some one experienced and thing will work out!

I really hope from the deep core buttom of my big heart !! that he rots on Inter's Bench and ruins his career ! that might be devilish but hey isnt that how he left us? in a devilish manner? so Rot on inter's bench and never play a game or when u play miss the easiest chances and then u can go back to ur home macedonia to play with one of the finest 4th league division club.

R_E... Teddy Sheringham has publicly at the begining of 2000-2001 season that altough United did offer him a contract he wants to go t oTottenham after the expiring of the contract with United... Yet he wasnt expeed from United squad...
Ronny Johnsen did the same... He also left for free... Was Tevez playing in CL final after declaring that he will most certanly leave United at the end of the season??? If you want I can continue with the players that were sold for a lot lower prize the 19.000.000 when they were in the last year of there contract also... Forlan was sold for 2 milion pounds.... Pique had a two year reminding in his contract and was sold for 6 mill pounds, Ruud was sold for 24 mill euros but because he had 3 years left of his contract.... So you dont guess it right... Fergie would in no way leave there best players out of the team because of declering intrest to join to other club and never gave a fee that is unrealistic.... And Fergie was the one who had the final say not Edwards or Gill or Glizers unlike Lotito almighty. And Pandev will play for Lazio for the same reason you said that Ronaldo was playing..."And I'll tell you why Ronaldo kept playing: To be in form cause MONEY IS MONEY and a player in his top shape is worth more than a player that doesn't play" your words...

No one offered a contract to Tevez because Berbatov was there and that is why he left, Forlan sucked at Man U and that's why he was sold cheap, Pique was sold cause he didn't have enough playing time and because Man U made a mistake selling him, and after 1 year he would have left for free (like Pandev ) so Man U cashed in on him and if you look carefully the same thing happened to LDS ... and honestly why are you involving Ruud's transfer ??? 3 years remaining - 24 mils cashed in? What is wrong here?

and no it's not Fergie's call cause in the end money talks. Ofcourse Pandev wants to play now for Lazio to keep his form. The form which eventually will help him get some games with inter. The thing is no one will let him to do so. And yes my words exactly are right, cause we won't get a dime in the summer for Pandev.

oops forgot Sheringham...well I don't recall the man u 2001 squad but I'll bet there were no equal replacements

OMG..... are you some 18 years old kid or what...
Cole, Yorke, Solskjaer... at that time were playing together with Teddy... SIR ALEX IS GOD IN UNITED..... he makes the calls.. No one else..... Tevez was offered a contract you should read about it it was in all news and that is irrelevant.. He was still playing that is the issue.... Piqur was sold for fair amount of money and was not in his last season... That I try to explain to you with Ruud also... If Ruud had one year left of his contract he would have been sold for 5-8 mill tops...
Stop talking to me if you still doesnt want to accept the fact that you dont leave your best players out of the team if they are needed... Especially the presidents doesnt have the right to do that.... Leaving Pandev and Ledesma is only bad for Lazio and the players them self.... But LAZIO and the players.... So if Lazio suffer then its a bad thing and as you being fan of lazio I will never understand you.... If Rooney tomorow say that this season is his last for United I would still love to watch him because he is playing still for United... I accept if when I watch Pandev for Lazio if he doesnt play with the spirit or he is not good but I just didnt had the chance to watch him and judge him..... end of story

Jaap Stam!

This comparison is spiralling a little out of control but Fergie has undeniably had feuds with many a player (Stam, Beckham, Keano to name but a few).

There's 2 reasons why Fergie can get away with it without criticism while Lotito and Ballardini can't. Firstly, Fergie has a track record which makes him difficult to argue with and secondly, the money is there to replace them.

If it was Fergie, Lippi, Capello or any top class manager sitting in the press conferences saying they don't want Goran then most fans would accept it. But it's not, it's Ballardini. Just because it's Ballardini/Lotito doesn't mean it is the wrong decision but it does mean fans are less likely to accept that they are in the right.

caxi.... thats not the issue.... .The thing is that Lotito is not the menager and ballardini want Pandev and Ledesma.... Thats the issue... And SAF never left players on bench when he did argue with.... Remember that he was playing beckham against Real altough there relationship was really bad... Thats the case.... He sale them yes... .But sale them, not abuse them.... If he wanted some player to be gone he sold them to any team that will offer the most not puting stupid tags on there heads.....

Roman_Eagle wrote:

deni reloaded wrote:

LazioS70 wrote:

Pandevs career is almost over.....some games for Inter(i really hope he leaves for them) and then Eto is back and mr. money will end up in a macedonain club and will retire after a year. And thats all because of money.

LOL

next January Pandev will be on a 3 million + euros salary playing for the Italian champion.

Lazio fans should be happy if Lazio is part of Serie A next season. Good luck

and you should look over you country's borders and watch some football to get the real picture

yea I'll come to bulgaria to watch pernik minyor - belasitca petrich ... real football . Maybe I'll get the real picture what do u think?

I'm not taking sides, but i'd have to say that the bulgarian 1stdivision is a better quality league than the MLS.

Kris wrote:

I'm not taking sides, but i'd have to say that the bulgarian 1stdivision is a better quality league than the MLS.

I dont know how well you know bulgarian league but thats just your opinion . I know both leagues pretty good and I can assure you that MLS is one class above Bulgarian league.

MLS as a league sucks , its not competitive ( one company owns most of the teams) but individualy there are many players in MLS that can easily play in European top leagues, which is not the case with bulgarian league

I severely doubt the absence of Goran Pandev will reduce us to Serie B either. I hope not anyway or else I should give up watching the beautiful game.

Its a sad situation but Goran didn't make it any better by publicly declaring he has received top offers from top clubs. I'm thankful for what he did for Lazio and I will always be greatful for that - but I can't wait until he leaves. Don't care where he goes. Hope he does smelling as and rots on the bench. I'm just hoping Inter are stupid enough to give Lazio something in return (eg: a young talented player, or Arnautovic on some sort of deal) even tough they could wait until the end of the season and get him for free. Then again, Juventus might intervene.

As for the Bulgarian league - its pretty average. I should know, I'm Bulgarian. A few quality players that would do well with smaller European sides, or maybe in Russia or something but that's about it. There are the odd exceptions off course - but I wouldn't say the Bulgarian League is better than the MLS. The MLS is improving every season.

deni reloaded wrote:

Lazio fans should be happy if Lazio is part of Serie A next season. Good luck

Dude, I'm just wondering, are you a Lazio fan??

I remember you saying you support Inter which is fine, I have nothing against them or you - but honestly if you're only here because you love Pandev and couldn't care less about Lazio, then what's the point??

All am going to say is I want pandev out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For me he is finished, he is not part of lazio anymore, so no need to talk about him.
P.S. after pandev stoped playing less macedonians started to come and write in this forum.

NITRO wrote:

caxi.... thats not the issue.... .The thing is that Lotito is not the menager and ballardini want Pandev and Ledesma.... Thats the issue... And SAF never left players on bench when he did argue with.... Remember that he was playing beckham against Real altough there relationship was really bad... Thats the case.... He sale them yes... .But sale them, not abuse them.... If he wanted some player to be gone he sold them to any team that will offer the most not puting stupid tags on there heads.....

Kicking a football boot into one of your player's face is not abuse???

I understand what you're saying but while it looks like Lotito called the shots, I'm not sure Ballardini would disagree.

As for the price tag, I cannot believe people think Lotito was truly expecting 15+ mil for Pandev. He's a businessman, might know nothing about football but he would at least know that 1 million is better than having to pay a guy to not train.

We are all hypothesising here but if Pandev signs for Inter or Juve in January or next summer and if he has had that deal in place before he returned to Formello for training then it's Lotito's right to do what he has done; but we will never know the full story.

NITRO wrote:

OMG..... are you some 18 years old kid or what...
Cole, Yorke, Solskjaer... at that time were playing together with Teddy... SIR ALEX IS GOD IN UNITED..... he makes the calls.. No one else..... Tevez was offered a contract you should read about it it was in all news and that is irrelevant.. He was still playing that is the issue.... Piqur was sold for fair amount of money and was not in his last season... That I try to explain to you with Ruud also... If Ruud had one year left of his contract he would have been sold for 5-8 mill tops...
Stop talking to me if you still doesnt want to accept the fact that you dont leave your best players out of the team if they are needed... Especially the presidents doesnt have the right to do that.... Leaving Pandev and Ledesma is only bad for Lazio and the players them self.... But LAZIO and the players.... So if Lazio suffer then its a bad thing and as you being fan of lazio I will never understand you.... If Rooney tomorow say that this season is his last for United I would still love to watch him because he is playing still for United... I accept if when I watch Pandev for Lazio if he doesnt play with the spirit or he is not good but I just didnt had the chance to watch him and judge him..... end of story

tevez was offered a contract much lower than his demands my friend and by the time he was offered that contract he didn't have any playing time except 10-15 mins in the end. that pissed him off and he left. and yet you are proving me right and still you can't see it :) wake up :) YES a player is sold for a small amount of money if he is in his last year! and that is why pandev is sitting this season out cause he is going to leave in the summer FOR FREE and no good president will allow this to be happening. AND WAKE UP - Pandev is not better than Cruz Zarate nor Pandev. It's your right to watch a player, but unlike you I watch the whole team not the player.

Bobbi wrote:

Its a sad situation but Goran didn't make it any better by publicly declaring he has received top offers from top clubs. I'm thankful for what he did for Lazio and I will always be greatful for that - but I can't wait until he leaves. Don't care where he goes. Hope he does smelling as and rots on the bench. I'm just hoping Inter are stupid enough to give Lazio something in return (eg: a young talented player, or Arnautovic on some sort of deal) even tough they could wait until the end of the season and get him for free. Then again, Juventus might intervene.

As for the Bulgarian league - its pretty average. I should know, I'm Bulgarian. A few quality players that would do well with smaller European sides, or maybe in Russia or something but that's about it. There are the odd exceptions off course - but I wouldn't say the Bulgarian League is better than the MLS. The MLS is improving every season.

deni reloaded wrote:

Lazio fans should be happy if Lazio is part of Serie A next season. Good luck

Dude, I'm just wondering, are you a Lazio fan??

I remember you saying you support Inter which is fine, I have nothing against them or you - but honestly if you're only here because you love Pandev and couldn't care less about Lazio, then what's the point??

Inter fan - YES
Lazio fan - NO
Lazio supporter - YES (as long as goran is playing)

I joined this forum because of goran I'm not affraid to admit it ... there's is nothing wrong with that.
THE POINT IS :
I know goran since he was a kid and I'm interested what Lazio fans think about him .. that is the reason why I joined this forum.

Some of you think goran hates Lazio, and loves Inter ... that is not the case. He is leaving Lazio because of Lotito .. he couldn't take it anymore. He will always love Lazio and Lazio fans .. I think.
As an inter fan I hope he loves inter the way he loved lazio.

Goran will always have my fullest respect so long as he don't go to Merda or some s**t.









+ many more, never to forget.

all "fans" who r watching football and Lazio often can notice the difference with Pandev and no Pandev...i think that Lazio will lose much more with Pandev out...

yeah we finished 10th last season..... it's a big difference now...... bla bla bla

Ok pandev lovers...Enough is enough....You say like you know that pandev is gonna score every chance he gets? I remember very well how youre macedonian idol missed 1000% chances. Especially he was so weak on 1-1 with the goalkeeper... And yes last year was the best year for ages now...10th place man....thats awful.
Our strikers dont have not many chances to score because our midfield is a huge hole in the field.
Anyway Inter pays well so there will be "love from the first payday i guess, goodbye moneypenny "

what are you talking about... No one said that he will score in every chance that he will get... And stop saying that last season Lazio finished 10 placed... Lazio also has won the cup and they also played in CL... And who was the cup leading scorer? And last year when I watched Lazio the games that Lazio played were much better then this year... Let me remind you now of the fixtures that lazio will have... You should see it... 10 placed Lazio I will take it again my friend if offer is on the table... And if you ask Rocchi or Zarate who they are missing they will say pandev for sure... He ir the most complete player in lazio but yet he is not playing... Wake up... For the sirst time lazio is in real danger of relegation...

I starting to wonder whether we miss Pandev's link up play. He was good at holding the ball up in attack allowing midfielders to come forward.

I was hoping the Cruz could fill that role however his recent performances haven't been up to the standard I hoped.

Roman_Eagle wrote:

yeah we finished 10th last season..... it's a big difference now...... bla bla bla

this show that you don't watch Lazio or maby one time from the whole season...you just read the table statistics....
and yeah he win the cup...at least you should start to watch some games now cuz you have not seen nothing in the past by you're statement...
where is Rocchi now, where is Zarate ?!? there is a big difference when Pandev is on the field...he take on him 2players and there is a much room for Rocchi or Zarate...also he was the the most unselfish player in Lazio...he make lots of good passes and asistence....i don't know even why i bother to talk....
i'll be so happy for him when he go out from this......