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Roman_Eagle Lazio Eagle
Number of posts : 2234 Age : 38 Country and city : Bulgaria, Veliko Tarnovo Laziale since : 1998 Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:45 pm | |
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usampa Curva Nord
Number of posts : 846 Age : 42 Country and city : Bulgaria , Rousse > Now in France Laziale since : 1994 Registration date : 2008-05-22
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:49 pm | |
| - Quote :
- The soccer player will arrive on loan for 800 mila euro, but Lotito will be able to exercise the right of redeems, whose figure has been already fixed to 8 million.
Just perfect. | |
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drazvan Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 268 Age : 45 Country and city : Netherlands Laziale since : 1996 Registration date : 2008-05-29
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:20 pm | |
| I'm happy that we sign Matuzalem, but I am a bit worried about the future amounts we fix...until now we have 15 millions to pay for Zarate and now another 8 to pay for Matuzalem...that's 23 millions...we have to make sure that if we want to keep them Pandev and Ledesma will not leave free-agents next years, otherwise it will be very difficult to get this kind of money... I would have been even more happy if we would have agreed a 5-6 million euro fee payable in 2-3 years for Matuzalem...but I guess that was not possible. | |
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frederick Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 410 Age : 44 Country and city : Sydney Laziale since : 1996 Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:22 pm | |
| I am more worried about his attitude more than his football skills.. there's no doubt, he's a top class midfielder, but he used FIFA art 17 before, just like Behrami did to us earlier this season.. And he doesn't come cheap too, 8 million euro? | |
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Cash Lazio Eagle
Number of posts : 2163 Age : 44 Country and city : Sthlm Sweden Registration date : 2008-07-15
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:34 pm | |
| I have read he is only coming on a one year loan deal...how true is that? If we have the choice to sign him through an option after that I would say yes to this deal..if it is only a loan, i would say no... | |
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Caput Mundi LFever Team Member
Number of posts : 1434 Age : 32 Country and city : South Australia Laziale since : nascita Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:36 pm | |
| 800 mila, means 800,000 not 8 million
800,000 for the loan and 8 million for the full transfer | |
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frederick Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 410 Age : 44 Country and city : Sydney Laziale since : 1996 Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:40 pm | |
| - c. testa wrote:
- 800 mila, means 800,000 not 8 million
800,000 for the loan and 8 million for the full transfer That's what I meant, if we were to redeem his transfer, it would cost us another 8 million euro Too much for a player who (1st) prone to injuries (he hasn't been playing for Zaragoza), (2nd) questionable loyalty, I know there's such thing as loyalty these days, but I just don't want another Behrami, if you know what I mean | |
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Caput Mundi LFever Team Member
Number of posts : 1434 Age : 32 Country and city : South Australia Laziale since : nascita Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:43 pm | |
| - frederick wrote:
- c. testa wrote:
- 800 mila, means 800,000 not 8 million
800,000 for the loan and 8 million for the full transfer That's what I meant, if we were to redeem his transfer, it would cost us another 8 million euro
Too much for a player who (1st) prone to injuries (he hasn't been playing for Zaragoza), (2nd) questionable loyalty, I know there's such thing as loyalty these days, but I just don't want another Behrami, if you know what I mean yes but if it means the end of say, Manfredini, I'm ok with it still wish that we'd sign a solid central defender | |
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Roman_Eagle Lazio Eagle
Number of posts : 2234 Age : 38 Country and city : Bulgaria, Veliko Tarnovo Laziale since : 1998 Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:10 pm | |
| relax guys .... the money will come form EU-tournaments next year :) | |
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Caput Mundi LFever Team Member
Number of posts : 1434 Age : 32 Country and city : South Australia Laziale since : nascita Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:13 pm | |
| - Roman_Eagle wrote:
- relax guys .... the money will come form EU-tournaments next year :)
off topic but if only we could get INA Assitalia back on board as well....i thought their president was a laziale, but never knew much about that. they used to sponsor merda but switched sides, guess they worked out what a real club is | |
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Goerlandt Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 273 Age : 33 Country and city : Belgium-Waregem Laziale since : 2001 Registration date : 2008-05-24
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:37 pm | |
| I'm not happy with this transfer. It is again a player on loan!!!! Lotito is crazy and everybody knows that he won't give 18 million or how many is it for Zarate and 8 million for Matuzalem. At the end of next year Ledesma and Pandev will be gone and there will no be any Zarate or Matuzalem.... | |
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Roman_Eagle Lazio Eagle
Number of posts : 2234 Age : 38 Country and city : Bulgaria, Veliko Tarnovo Laziale since : 1998 Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:53 pm | |
| well if Zarate and Matuzalem prove to be the players we need there will not be any other way for Lotito.. plus I think that in Z's contract was said that we can pay the whole sum in 3 times and the last payment was due to 2010 or 2011 and it was around 9 mil | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:32 pm | |
| we could Ronaldinho instead of zarate & matuzalem!! & if he is 8mil we cold buy aimar, when he went to benfica with only 7mil |
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valdanito_10 Curva Nord
Number of posts : 783 Age : 38 Country and city : dominican republic, santo domingo Laziale since : 1997 Registration date : 2008-05-24
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:34 pm | |
| and whos paying dhinos wages?
you? | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:43 pm | |
| - valdanito_10 wrote:
- and whos paying dhinos wages?
you? i just wana have a comparsion of the price, i know that we cant pay him if only we had him, any way it's not here to discus but i have protest to price of zarate, even i love so much him & it's a dream to see him in lazio jersey |
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El MaEsTro Aquilotto
Number of posts : 74 Age : 41 Country and city : Kuwait City Laziale since : 1995 Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:08 pm | |
| Matuzalem is a very good and solid midfielder.. he will add creativity in the middle along side Ledesma.. I have a feeling that he was brought in to pave way for Ledesma's exit.. | |
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Cash Lazio Eagle
Number of posts : 2163 Age : 44 Country and city : Sthlm Sweden Registration date : 2008-07-15
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:54 pm | |
| Zarate at least have the future in front of him...Matuzalem has not been oustanding in any club he has played for, and as I have understood he has a tendency to get injured and also he doesnt seem to be a player with that much heart considering how many clubs he has been to...he is not that young either...Everything is a bit of a mess since we dont really know what formation Mister will prefer to use... | |
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Biancocelesti Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 341 Age : 34 Country and city : Sweden, Uppsala Laziale since : 1999 Registration date : 2008-05-22
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:53 pm | |
| Lotito is trying to put pressure on River Plate, I think he wants to sign Fernandez, as a back up he has Matuzalem. I'd prefer the argentinian. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:25 am | |
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Roman_Eagle Lazio Eagle
Number of posts : 2234 Age : 38 Country and city : Bulgaria, Veliko Tarnovo Laziale since : 1998 Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:36 am | |
| yep ... Lotito is doing a great job.... just today we made 9 mil :) | |
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Biancocelesti Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 341 Age : 34 Country and city : Sweden, Uppsala Laziale since : 1999 Registration date : 2008-05-22
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:44 am | |
| Since Ledesma got his passport, and you can have 2 non-eu players in your squad, can't Fernandez arrive anyday now? | |
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valdanito_10 Curva Nord
Number of posts : 783 Age : 38 Country and city : dominican republic, santo domingo Laziale since : 1997 Registration date : 2008-05-24
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:56 am | |
| fernandez is expected to get his passport soon and will arrive as a eu player. they say he will really get it and its not like with carrizo | |
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usampa Curva Nord
Number of posts : 846 Age : 42 Country and city : Bulgaria , Rousse > Now in France Laziale since : 1994 Registration date : 2008-05-22
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:25 am | |
| - Biancocelesti wrote:
- Since Ledesma got his passport, and you can have 2 non-eu players in your squad, can't Fernandez arrive anyday now?
No , as far as I know Matuzalem is going to use the vacant non EU spot. Thats why we must wait for his Italian pass..... | |
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Matrim Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 240 Age : 43 Country and city : bulgaria Registration date : 2008-07-17
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:58 am | |
| Ledesma's passport has nothing to do with it since the non-EU players rule concerns only newly signed players from abroad. And yes, the second non-EU place will be taken by Matuzalem if we sign him. | |
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ClockworkOrange Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 123 Age : 47 Country and city : Sweden, Mariestad Laziale since : 1998 Registration date : 2008-06-25
| Subject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:47 pm | |
| A one year loan for €2M .. is Lotito more crazy than usual? .. to buy him next summer would cost €15M-€16M .. if this accurate .. we should back out of this deal instantly MATUZALEM - Lotito non molla il brasiliano del Real Saragozza. Il Real concede un prestito gratuito con diritto di riscatto fissato a 15- 16 milioni di euro. A Lotito spetterà il compito di pagare l’ingaggio del centrocampista, attorno ai 2 milioni di euro. http://www.corrieredellosport.it/Notizie/Calcio/36815/Zauri+e+Behrami+salutano+la+Lazio | |
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