Serie A: BOLOGNA-LAZIO, Sunday, 19-10-08

What fans are you guys ? The team makes 1,2 bad games and you start talking that Rossi should be fired ... When we were winning and beating in our first games you were all happy and didn't say anything about Rossi. Stop talking sh*t! Every team has bad and good moments, the last two games are the bad moment for the team and everyone should focus on the next game with Napoli which the team must win and come on the winning streak again!

FORZA LAZIO !!! NON MOLLARE MAI !!!

i dont undertand why so many of u blast Rossi now... ffs he wasnt on the pitch.... is his fault that our defense was sleeping in the 1st half? Siviglia was awful today... but he was good in the 1st 6 games. at midfield there weren`t much solutions... with Meghni and Matuzalem injured. Mauri was weak in the last 2 games so maybe this is the reason why Rossi didn`t used him as starter. maybe his only mistake was he didnt try to play with 3 attackers. but the problem was in our midfield who couldnt provide more balls for the strikers. so i dunno if Za-Pa-Ro would have been a solution

Not the best Lazio performance of the season definitely and a bad loss. The team was not very motivated and after being 3-0 down away against any team, it will be difficult to get back into it. The Rocchi goal got Lazio back in the match - at least the team created some decent chances but it was not the same and it was over long before it started. Some of Rossi's tactics have to be questioned indeed but I believe in Rossi and one or two bad games can not be all down to him. The squad needs to calm down and put their feet on the ground and get set for an epic encounter against Napoli coming up next. I agree a majority of his decisions were rather silly and most coaches probably would not have done the same but shite happens. I think Matuzalem is really missed and so is having Meghni as a substitute.

Lets forget about this match, and more importantly, lets hope the players all forget this match, put it behind them, move on, and look forward to the next match which is a very difficult one against the Partenopei.

NON MOLLARE MAI!!!! FORZA LAZIO!!!!

Carrizo is not to blame IMO ... the only chance he had was at the second goal but there are not many GK that can save it ... and what a class from Di Vaio I knew we had to get him in the summer

This is not about the fans.We talking about that we're making the same mistakes from last year.Weak defence,no ambition,no midfield,no defense,no tactics,wrong substitutions etc.I think you agree that for these things there is only 1 guilty person:Rossi.(maybe 2 with Lotito:"Scudetto bla bla bla")It seems that he isn't able to resolve these kind of situations,he has his favourites:Mauri,Makinwa,Siviglia and finally Ledesma,a captain who wants to leave us,who isn't playing football a long time ago.Who can ambitionate the team if not Rossi or the captain?Who? And don't say to me that Siviglia was playing good,or Mauri,or Makinwa,or.......Rossi.What can we do with a super attack if we don't have the players to give them balls and help them?We want to achieve something this season with Siviglia in the first 11?I have nothing with this guy,he made a lot for Lazio,he made great matches too,but his time is gone.At Di Vaio's 2nd goal he didn't know where he is,he was searching for the ball.And once again Rossi:how can he substitute Zarate with Rocchi,when Bologna is leading with 3-0.There were better solutions to introduce Rocchi.
I say once again:I don't want anybody to be fired up,I just want to see commitment,ambition,respect to the other teams and a fighting spirit from the players and from the staff too.I don't want us to make last years mistake once again cause this season started so good,what means that we have value this season,but we haven't got the right mentality.We are LAZIO.L-A-Z-I-O!
I think all Lazio fans are supporting the team in good and bad times,but it hurts to see our team burned like this!It's a shame!I also think that all laziali have faith in the team,cause WE ARE LAZIO,and we never fall down!
Non mollare mai!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Something like that was bound to happen, bad games happen, let's not just fall back into the habit of assuming the worst is yet to happen...It's still early to tell but we can't have that attitude now and have faith!

FORZA LAZIO!

Well at least alot of our direct competitors Juve and merdas are having bad times lately.

Back to the drawing board. Radu needs to play, preferably at centre back. But it's also no good changing our centre back pairing every Sunday. Taking Zarate off was a mistake, Rocchi should have entered for the visibally exhausted Pandev. Rossi made some stupid mistakes today. And to be honest, I wasn't expecting a great performance... Rossi's record for October speaks for itself. He needs to sort it out.

Forza Lazio.

PS: Great to see Rocchi back

martinese wrote:

What fans are you guys ? The team makes 1,2 bad games and you start talking that Rossi should be fired ... When we were winning and beating in our first games you were all happy and didn't say anything about Rossi. Stop talking sh*t! Every team has bad and good moments, the last two games are the bad moment for the team and everyone should focus on the next game with Napoli which the team must win and come on the winning streak again!

FORZA LAZIO !!! NON MOLLARE MAI !!!

Actually, we have had many bad games. Cagliari was awful for 60 minutes and it was only when Delio made the changes most of were screaming for that we got into the game. Against Samp, we got a great goal that got us into the game but if it wasn't for some superb individual efforts, the result could have been different. Milan was awful because Delio did what a lot of us didn't want to see. Fiorentina was excellent. Torino was a great result but again, result could have been very different. Lecce was a mess because we put out the exact side Beretta expected and today, although I wanted Delio to put out that side, he knows better than I the condition of the squad and we just lacked everything.

Point is, we have achieved great results but a lot of us think this is to do with individual stars on the pitch rather than Delio. Picking up 1 point against 2 sides fancied for relegation says a lot. I believe Delio is at fault for much of this. At the end of the day, we have a squad full of top players who have competed in the Champions League in the past and if we can't beat relegation candidates, it speaks volumes. I haven't come to this conclusion solely on the Bologna and Lecce games but on last season as well.

As I have said in the past, Delio is a confidence coach. When things go well, things go very well and we get results but after the Lecce game I expected a loss simply because I don't believe Delio is the kind of person who can pick the players up when they are down. Rocchi, Cribari, Kolarov and Lichtsteiner were the only 4 men I saw today who had any belief or desire. That, for me, is down to Rossi.

Give him a chance but f we keep slipping up against teams we should be beating with ease, he has to go. Simple as that.

We dont need a new coach, we need new defenders ASAP!

I also agree some of rossis changes today were a bit dubious.

Well, we can go on for ages about Rossi, Siviglia, Dabo etc. etc.

I think the point today is the mentality. If you go behind 3-0 after 20 something minutes, it´s not only down to individual mistakes, but then simply the team isn´t ready from the start to do the job.

I think it´s embarrasing when thousands of laziali travel to Bologna to support the team, that they come out with an attitude like that. You can always loose a game, but it´s not okay to approach a game like this.

Like I had said already weeks ago, all the cocky interviews about scudetto and Lotito´s Lazio being just as good as Cragnotti´s Lazio now come back and make us look like complete retards. Exactly as it has happened to Rioma again and again. Hopefully those voices will be silenced now and we´ll see a team with a humble attitude ready to work hard. Cause they are really not that good...

rikk wrote:

Lazio don't will be never a big team until Rossi will be our coach, he wrong always in the same things:
1)Siviglia-Cribari are simply ridicolous players, Why don't put Diakitè that when he has played was very good instead of Siviglia that have 36 years old? or Why don't put Radu that all people know that he is better than Siviglia and Cribari? and Rozehnal? he is worst than them?
2) why put foggia on the right that he is left and always he can't cross if don't come back at kick with left?
3) why Zarate that until the match against Torino have scored much after Rossi have put him near the lateral line and no as before at centre of attack?
3) Carrizo if isn't in a good form ...why put him? ( every shot its a goal )

Tottaly agree. At least some of us are aware on what planet we are.

Caxi is very right also.
When the hell did i say that Lazio played good and i`m blaming Rossi now ?? I said that we played incredible bad with Cagliari, Sampdoria etc. and Rossi is not a coach for a team like Lazio..and he will never be. End of story.

I have always said that Rossi is a second class coach. when did he do anything ? i dont recall any big achievements from him. he should be changed ASAP, he has a non relegation mentality and he gets confused quite often. he is a lecce, catania, reggina kind of coach.
We need someone like Lippi, ancelotti .... that have a fighting mentality. its ok to lose, but not like this.
The team clearly was not motivated, wrong tactiacl positioning, and wrong player choices. all are the job of the Coach

DaKiller wrote:

i dont recall any big achievements from him.

getting a team from -11 (later -3) to a 3rd place CHL spot is not an achievement then ???

DaKiller wrote:

I have always said that Rossi is a second class coach. when did he do anything ? i dont recall any big achievements from him. he should be changed ASAP, he has a non relegation mentality and he gets confused quite often. he is a lecce, catania, reggina kind of coach.
We need someone like Lippi, ancelotti .... that have a fighting mentality. its ok to lose, but not like this.
The team clearly was not motivated, wrong tactiacl positioning, and wrong player choices. all are the job of the Coach

ancelotti has a fighting mentality?
come on , he has huge budgets and a great dressing room hold.
if you don't remember big achievements i suggest you a doctor.
6th place at the first year with people like piccolo, giallombardo in the squad
3rd place in th second year.
transfer budget are just medium now.

lack of memory,what a bad problem.

pazke wrote:

getting a team from -11 (later -3) to a 3rd place CHL spot is not an achievement then ???

No,it's not!I must say that we were the only team,for who the Calciopoli was a step forward, to a succesful season.The other "Calcipoli" teams had more points deducted and that was good for us.jubentus in Serie B.Just look at the '06-'07 season's final standing.If you look at the points we were fighting for a CL place,with teams like Empoli,Atalanta,Palermo,Fiorentina.I don't consider that the '06-'07 season was a good one.That year fighting for a CL spot was an obligation.Simply there were only 3 teams figthing for something:inler,riomma and us.
If you take a look at our squad since Lotito is president,you notice that it was changing,reconstructing,developing.The players who hasn't got value simly disappeared cause our team was developing.to achieve big things later.This is what everybody is talking about:the level.We're starting to have a star team,we want to fight for scudetto(not this year),and for this is necessary everything to be on the same level.When Rossi took over Lazio,he was the best solution(searching for talents,without an object).But with years expectations became higher,we're starting to buy good players,and they need a coache who could drive them to success.Delio became part of Lazio's history,but now his on a lower level than the palyers(excepting Makinwa,Mauri,Siviglia).In the matches against Lecce and Bologna he has shown that he's blocked.
I don't know who could be the ideal coach for us,but we need someone with another mentality and if we don't find this,I say we could name a coach who was playing at us,and is a real laziale.
I wish that Rossi can turn into a magicianand resolve everything,but I think it's not going to happen

The last two games should have meant 6 points collected, as it is now we have failed deeply these two rounds and very much is thanks to the lack of having the capacity of being in charge in a game. We perform better against teams that we dont need to be dictating the game. It is actually not so strange that we fail against these teams as we do not have a game on our own. Ledesma is a disaster, and as I and many with me has stressed for so long, a sub for him is more than needed. This guy is just not performing, and we have nothing to replace him with.
Our central defence is a joke, and once again it has been something that myself and many with me kept on focusing on despite the success initially. But we are stuck with what we have for now, and at least until January, so Rossi must figure a way to sort the business out.

Yesterday things looked as last year with a poor goalie, an unsatisfying central defence and a midfield consisting of two defensive midfielders protecting a playmaker without any fantasy whatsoever. This lack of creativity is what brings the attackers in such poor positions as they want to take charge and crete something out of nothing.

Napoli will be an extremely tough game, but I am looking towards it with tranquility as we have quite a few points, we are still close to the top and hopefully we will preform better against a stronger side (nor risk for under estimating them, plus they have a game plan on their own that is not about keeping 10 players behind the ball).

Things need to be turned around soon for the team to not get back to last years non-existing selfconfidence...

LaziOttimo wrote:

pazke wrote:

getting a team from -11 (later -3) to a 3rd place CHL spot is not an achievement then ???

No,it's not!I must say that we were the only team,for who the Calciopoli was a step forward, to a succesful season.The other "Calcipoli" teams had more points deducted and that was good for us.jubentus in Serie B.Just look at the '06-'07 season's final standing.If you look at the points we were fighting for a CL place,with teams like Empoli,Atalanta,Palermo,Fiorentina.I don't consider that the '06-'07 season was a good one.That year fighting for a CL spot was an obligation.Simply there were only 3 teams figthing for something:inler,riomma and us.
If you take a look at our squad since Lotito is president,you notice that it was changing,reconstructing,developing.The players who hasn't got value simly disappeared cause our team was developing.to achieve big things later.This is what everybody is talking about:the level.We're starting to have a star team,we want to fight for scudetto(not this year),and for this is necessary everything to be on the same level.When Rossi took over Lazio,he was the best solution(searching for talents,without an object).But with years expectations became higher,we're starting to buy good players,and they need a coache who could drive them to success.Delio became part of Lazio's history,but now his on a lower level than the palyers(excepting Makinwa,Mauri,Siviglia).In the matches against Lecce and Bologna he has shown that he's blocked.
I don't know who could be the ideal coach for us,but we need someone with another mentality and if we don't find this,I say we could name a coach who was playing at us,and is a real laziale.
I wish that Rossi can turn into a magicianand resolve everything,but I think it's not going to happen

Very well said. And i have an option for your wishes : Bergodi.
I said this before and everyone jumped in my head ..considering that he has no experience in serie a bla bla. Well yeah.. Rossi has and ??? See Zenga..he`s a new comer in serie a as a coach but he`s doing magic with Catania.
If i were Lotito i would hire Bergodi ASAP..a true Lazio blood, a real captain, a great man and a very good coach.
As for everything...agree. 3rd place with calciopoli.

Bologna have Marco do Vaio and some other former stars, They are well off.

Kurama_SSLazio wrote:

Very well said. And i have an option for your wishes : Bergodi.
I said this before and everyone jumped in my head ..considering that he has no experience in serie a bla bla. .

What exactly happened to him in Rapid?Was he fired or? He's been out of a job for a year now or am I wrong?

And don't get me started on Zenga....

Sacking the manager seven games into a season in my opinion is amateurish as well unprosfessional. Even if we were to sack Rossi we would need a new coach. We are fifth in the table which is good position. This was a bad result and none of the players performed. We need to forget about this match as quick as possible and get ready for the next one against Napoli. Hopefully our team shows a good reaction like when we won against Fiorentina after the Milan loss. One thing that is clear is our defence needs to improve greatly. 10 goals conceded already is very worrying and in this league teams can close out games after scoring the first goal which is very crucial.

Hopefully the team plays a great game in front of our fans at the Olimpico against Napoli.

Sile wrote:

Kurama_SSLazio wrote:

Very well said. And i have an option for your wishes : Bergodi.
I said this before and everyone jumped in my head ..considering that he has no experience in serie a bla bla. .

What exactly happened to him in Rapid?Was he fired or? He's been out of a job for a year now or am I wrong?

And don't get me started on Zenga....

Bergodi can take some credit for making Cluj the merda-beaters that they are.

At Rapid he resigned. Just didn't like them and had little positive to say about them.

All this talk in the forum about sacking Rossi and then line up possible replacements whenever we have lost a game or even just put in a poor performance is quite ridicolous. Not to mention pretty tiresome as well...

Caxi wrote:

Sile wrote:

Kurama_SSLazio wrote:

Very well said. And i have an option for your wishes : Bergodi.
I said this before and everyone jumped in my head ..considering that he has no experience in serie a bla bla. .

What exactly happened to him in Rapid?Was he fired or? He's been out of a job for a year now or am I wrong?

And don't get me started on Zenga....

Bergodi can take some credit for making Cluj the merda-beaters that they are.

At Rapid he resigned. Just didn't like them and had little positive to say about them.

The big issue was the boss (Rapid has a guy that is worse then Lotito .. i know cause here i support them). So that`s why he left..although he had results. For CFR he did a great job as well.