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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:43 am
Au revoir la France....alot of smiling faces in Ireland tonight.
Cash Lazio Eagle
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:23 am
Bobbi wrote:
Great to see Nando and Uruguay win their group and with 0 goals conceded!
Nice to see the French bounced. They didn't even deserve to be in the WC. Its sad to see South Africa miss out on goal difference though, but at least a quality side like Mexico will advance.
Did anyone see Nigeria's open goal miss? Couldn't believe it. Down 2-1 the ball was crossed back, the keeper completely missed it and the Nigerian striker tapped it out from probably no more than 3 metres out!
Its Argentina vs Mexico and Uruguay vs South Korea right?
Yakubu will have a hard time getting back from that miss, if he had scored and they would have won the game they would have been through. Nigeria have had the margins against them this WC; the stupid red card and that miss yesterday screwed them over.
Domenech is the funniest lad out there. After, during the press conference, he stated that he loved the team and that he had had a great time with them during the WC!
Uruguay has impressed me massiveley so far. Great defenders, and they have the edge in attack. They will have a hard time against the Koreans, as they are very fast and extremely dangerous at set pieces, but they should beat them. Forza Nando!
Sile LFever Team Member
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:32 am
Yakubu's miss, for those who missed it (I crack myself up )
Kudos and massive respect to Uruguay, topping the group with the hosts and the finalists of 2006, without even conceding a single goal. I have them down as favorites against a very lucky Korea.
Smiley faces all around after France crashed out, I hope these arguments set them back 10 years, god damn bastards, remind me again why France were given the Euro? Bastards the lot of them
LazioS70 Curva Nord
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:48 am
Yes it should be Argentina-Mexico and Uruguay-SK When will those be played?
Petter Curva Maestrelli
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:04 pm
Sile wrote:
Yakubu's miss, for those who missed it (I crack myself up )
hahhahha damn!
LazioS70 Curva Nord
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:32 pm
hhahahaha
Taib Curva Maestrelli
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:04 pm
United States and England both win 1-0 so both go through. United States top with England second. That means that England could face Germany in second round if they beat Ghana later.
Ed Curva Nord
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:13 pm
MUCH improved England - may have only been 1 goal and some nervous moments (what England game is without those!) but at least they played more like a team and had energy and purpose. Milner was fantastic after the first 10min or so, his dynamism and crossing was fundamental to the performance. Rooney needs a goal badly but at least he did something. Maybe a small step on the road to some sort of salvation for the team, next round will need to be handled without fear and with pace and passing like today. At least we are through but lots of improvement still required!
Probably don't want a big battle with the Germans now...
Sile LFever Team Member
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:36 pm
What heartbreak for Slovenia, it's really incredible how cruel football is sometimes. They really did not deserve to go out like this, it's fairy tale gone nightmare in a second.
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:38 pm
Sile wrote:
What heartbreak for Slovenia, it's really incredible how cruel football is sometimes. They really did not deserve to go out like this, it's fairy tale gone nightmare in a second.
Indeed! There was an incredible minute of silence after our game ended and suddenly the commentator goes: there's a goal in Pretoria (but didn't tell for who)... and we all knew who scored.
But at least we showed something, we proved something.... I'm proud of our team.
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:06 am
England coming 2nd has really shaken things up.
One of these 4 teams (Uruguay, South Korea, USA, Ghana) will make the semi finals. Fantastic chance for the Urus to return to former glory. Go Muslera!
On the other hand we have 2 huge games in Germany-England and Mexico-Argentina, with the winners to face each other there.
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:17 am
Im also sad for Slovenia. What a great spirit they had for the game....Germany will crash England and mr. Capello puts his millions in his arse and returns back to Italy to coach a Serie-A club. As for the Australian goalkeeper....he cant get even near to mr. Green... still the estonian commentators were sure he defenetly made to Top 5.
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:36 am
Grande soccerooooos! I'm so glad they won against Serbia, but it's bad that Ghana went trought with this anti-football they are playing.
Serbia and France out. So great!
Sile LFever Team Member
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:46 am
I'm thoroughly disgusted with today's results.
Heartbreak for Slovenia and a steal against Serbia. Serbia not being given a clear penalty that would see them through and the irony is they conceded 2 identical penalties. But now that the same situation would go in their favor the ref kept silent. And in the end the Aussies had nothing to play for because f*cking germanz only beat Ghana by 1-0.
Ghana progressing by scoring two penalties against 10 men. I'm so f*cking happy and ecstatic that the shithole continent has 6 WC spots it's unbelievable.
This crapstorm of a WC is turning from bad to worse. It was annoying from the start with the poor scoring and the vuvuzelas but this is becoming unbearable to watch.
Caxi Son of Maestrelli
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:05 am
Back from vacation, been watching all games in Spain. I cannot say I am shocked about too many performances from teams.
Bit surprised France flopped as badly as they did because Mexico are really not a great side but something went wrong after Uruguay. I think personally it was one big overreaction. France have never played well in group games but they looked in control against Uruguay and had chances. They were a shadow of themselves in the next two games.
Altitude and ball is suiting the Argies, as I expected, through the group of smelling as teams with ease, should breeze into the semis. Criticise the defense and decisions all you like but the opposition have not been able to create chances and if Messi finds his shooting boots, goals are ominous.
Typical Germany, lay down a marker with their opener (8-0 Saudi Arabia 2002 springs to mind) and then mess it up against Serbia (a la Ireland 2002). Still can go a long way, the talent is there but I fear England will do them.
England situation is laughable; complete exaggeration, the same as France suffered, difference is Capello is at the helm.
I've said all along Slovakia will end up in a situation where they can dump out Italy and I believe they will. Paraguay are typically astute, no surprise to see them deliver. Same with Chile, Denmark etc. They were always going to deliver.
Spain result was no shock, I almost sensed it in the air. The Spanish don't seem confident at all, Del Bosque as manager is always a concern for me and although the performances have been acceptable, those results would not have come under Aragones. Why? All about selection. Spain have too many almost world class players.
Same with Brazil. Both North Korea and Ivory Coast could have scored a nice number against them. This solid backbone people speak of is rubbish. Elano, Robinho and Fabiano don't have the consistency to win right through the KO's for me. There's a reason they play for Galatasaray, Santos and Sevilla respectively. The wheels have got to fall off the wagon there for me.
It's a wide open World Cup with all the mini-dramas one can expect but for me, the disappointment has been the inevitable; sides like Ghana, South Korea and USA making it through because decisions conspired against others and they lack the quality to make this World Cup enthralling for quite a while. Shame.
BigMamaEagle Honour member
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:42 am
the USA may not be the best technical players, but today vs. Algeria I saw one of the best team performances I have ever seen in the 20 years I have been following international football. The team never gave up during any of their three group matches, and were the personification of "non mollare mai."
Kris Curva Nord
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:18 am
Bloody Yanks! i was so looking forward to Slovenia getting through. They played a brilliant game against the English, and a small lapse in defensive concentration cost them dearly. Well done Slovenia, you distinguished yourselves with pure class in Sth Africa.
I'm proud of my Socceroos. Who knows if Kewell wasnt sent off against Ghana, maybe we couldve pinched a win there and been through on 6 points. Bloody Germans, that 4-0 butt f#@king set our fate from day 1.
Oh well, i'll be cheering the Kiwi's on, and if that dosnt go well, then im torn between Portugal & Argentina.
What a terrible WC so far though. smelling as Ball, smelling as Atmosphere, smelling as Goals, smelling as Referees.
Hopefully we land a motivated & brilliant coach now for the $6 Million per year we are offering. Asian Cup coming up for us next. and 2014 Brazil our next aim.
FORZA AUSTRALIA FOR 2022 HOST NATION!!! If we land this, the next decade will see a major shift in football (soccer) becoming a major sport down under.
Bobbi Lazio Eagle
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:42 am
Glad to see Germany and Ghana progress. I'm sad for Australia though. I wanted to see them advance in the knockout stages but like Kris said, the 4-0 thumping was significant and the negative goal difference proved vital. Although Ghana aren't the most entertaining and are very defensive, they play as a team and with good spirit and I admire that. Its good to see an African team advancing as well. Glad Serbia didn't advance and they didn't deserve to anyway IMO. They were trap against Ghana, lucky against Germany and average against Australia.
I feel heartbroken for Slovenia and Edi. They deserved to go through but the 2-2 USA comeback unfolded them in the end. A real shame. I'm still sad just thinking about it. England are very lucky to qualify. A slender one goal win, although they did play better today, sees them through but if they play this way against Germany they will surely be punished. IMO the US also deserved to advance. I've actually enjoyed watching them over the last 2 weeks. Nothing against England, but for me that group deserved Slovenia and USA to progress.
I don't know why some people aren't happy with sides like USA, Mexico, South Korea and Ghana progressing. They have rightfully earned their places and I for one am glad to see them advance. Well done to them all.
In about 9 hours NZ kicks off against Paraguay. Hope to see NZ create some football history. GO THE ALL WHITES!!!!!
Caput Mundi LFever Team Member
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:52 am
Caxi wrote:
Back from vacation, been watching all games in Spain. I cannot say I am shocked about too many performances from teams.
Bit surprised France flopped as badly as they did because Mexico are really not a great side but something went wrong after Uruguay. I think personally it was one big overreaction. France have never played well in group games but they looked in control against Uruguay and had chances. They were a shadow of themselves in the next two games.
Altitude and ball is suiting the Argies, as I expected, through the group of smelling as teams with ease, should breeze into the semis. Criticise the defense and decisions all you like but the opposition have not been able to create chances and if Messi finds his shooting boots, goals are ominous.
Typical Germany, lay down a marker with their opener (8-0 Saudi Arabia 2002 springs to mind) and then mess it up against Serbia (a la Ireland 2002). Still can go a long way, the talent is there but I fear England will do them.
England situation is laughable; complete exaggeration, the same as France suffered, difference is Capello is at the helm.
I've said all along Slovakia will end up in a situation where they can dump out Italy and I believe they will. Paraguay are typically astute, no surprise to see them deliver. Same with Chile, Denmark etc. They were always going to deliver.
Spain result was no shock, I almost sensed it in the air. The Spanish don't seem confident at all, Del Bosque as manager is always a concern for me and although the performances have been acceptable, those results would not have come under Aragones. Why? All about selection. Spain have too many almost world class players.
Same with Brazil. Both North Korea and Ivory Coast could have scored a nice number against them. This solid backbone people speak of is rubbish. Elano, Robinho and Fabiano don't have the consistency to win right through the KO's for me. There's a reason they play for Galatasaray, Santos and Sevilla respectively. The wheels have got to fall off the wagon there for me.
It's a wide open World Cup with all the mini-dramas one can expect but for me, the disappointment has been the inevitable; sides like Ghana, South Korea and USA making it through because decisions conspired against others and they lack the quality to make this World Cup enthralling for quite a while. Shame.
I think you're slightly off the ball with a couple of things. Firstly, France have major squad problems, worse than I've ever seen in any team: club or country.
Denmark and Slovakia aren't delivering. The Danes need to beat Japan to go through and the Slovaks need to beat Italy. Yes, they can still progress and may well do so but nonetheless, both teams have been extremely dire so far. I'd go as far as saying Slovakia have been the worst team at the tournament to date.
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:34 am
The french were bound to be the laugh stock of the WC and they did. Hear breaking drops for Australia and Slovenia, but that is football. Saw a little bit of Australia - Serbia tho and have to say Krasic had 2 opportunities to score while it was 0:0. Also have to say that Ghana were missing that final shot a couple of times.
Some nice games coming with the latino clash and the all time classic Germany- England :)
PS: That dude Pantelic has to be one of the most overrated forwards EVER! He sucked in Hertha, haven't seen him play for Ajax tho but just saw his miss against australia
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:19 am
BigMamaEagle wrote:
the USA may not be the best technical players, but today vs. Algeria I saw one of the best team performances I have ever seen in the 20 years I have been following international football. The team never gave up during any of their three group matches, and were the personification of "non mollare mai."
I agree with this. USA made my day! They were like gladiators on the pitch and I'm really, really happy that they won the game and will go through to the next round because they deserve it!
Caxi Son of Maestrelli
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:38 pm
Caput Mundi wrote:
I think you're slightly off the ball with a couple of things. Firstly, France have major squad problems, worse than I've ever seen in any team: club or country.
Denmark and Slovakia aren't delivering. The Danes need to beat Japan to go through and the Slovaks need to beat Italy. Yes, they can still progress and may well do so but nonetheless, both teams have been extremely dire so far. I'd go as far as saying Slovakia have been the worst team at the tournament to date.
I didn't say Slovakia were delivering but more referring to the fact that Italy were always going to be on the fringe come the final group game. Slovakia have been the worst side in the tournament so far but with minimal improvement, they can beat Italy. The Azzurri are that bad mate.
As for Denmark, they could have had the Dutch before the ludicrous own goal and against Cameroon, they grinded out a result. Considering many people wrote them out of it, I'd call that delivering...at least for the timebeing.
I still believe France were fine against Uruguay. Look, they had squad issues when they played us in the play-off but at no point did we put them to the slaughter. Uruguay couldn't either. If Govou put away his sitter, would they have had the same squad issues? I don't believe they would. The team that played Mexico was a far cry from the side that took on Uruguay. Something went very wrong in between and Domenech couldn't rectify it.
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:32 pm
Caxi wrote:
Caput Mundi wrote:
I think you're slightly off the ball with a couple of things. Firstly, France have major squad problems, worse than I've ever seen in any team: club or country.
Denmark and Slovakia aren't delivering. The Danes need to beat Japan to go through and the Slovaks need to beat Italy. Yes, they can still progress and may well do so but nonetheless, both teams have been extremely dire so far. I'd go as far as saying Slovakia have been the worst team at the tournament to date.
I didn't say Slovakia were delivering but more referring to the fact that Italy were always going to be on the fringe come the final group game. Slovakia have been the worst side in the tournament so far but with minimal improvement, they can beat Italy. The Azzurri are that bad mate.
As for Denmark, they could have had the Dutch before the ludicrous own goal and against Cameroon, they grinded out a result. Considering many people wrote them out of it, I'd call that delivering...at least for the timebeing.
I still believe France were fine against Uruguay. Look, they had squad issues when they played us in the play-off but at no point did we put them to the slaughter. Uruguay couldn't either. If Govou put away his sitter, would they have had the same squad issues? I don't believe they would. The team that played Mexico was a far cry from the side that took on Uruguay. Something went very wrong in between and Domenech couldn't rectify it.
I know. I agree.
Re: France, I don't know how accurate this is, but have a read
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Turns out Ribery, Gallas, Anelka and Evra had been running the team for a lot longer than we all thought. We assumed that little coup of theirs only happened last week but in fact it happened 4 years ago. For the last 4 years Domenech was only the sock puppet of a group of players.
We all knew some sort of coup happened before the 1st round game against Togo in 2006 but we all assumed once the World Cup was over things had returned to normal. Turns out they didn't. Domenech is such a doormat that he's let the players run the team ever since. Nasri didn't make the squad because Ribery didn't want him there, same for Ben Arfa. Unbelievable stuff.
The Anelka story only appeared because a member of the staff was so fed up with the whole situation that he leaked it to the press and for a while it looked that Anelka would get away with it. But after the story made the front page of L'Equipe, Sarko got involved and Anelka got kicked out. The FFF is in a complete state of anarchy and the old farts are so afraid to lose their cushy position that no one wants to rock the boat.
All this years we thought Domenech was an arrogant incompetent prick, turns out he was never in control at all. It was all for show.
The icing on the cake was 2 days ago when the players decided to go on strike and made Domenech read their statement to the press. Can you imagine Ferguson, Lippi or Hiddink let his team go on strike and come to the media, the tail between the legs, to read a statement written by the players? I don't think so!
The jig is up now. A lot of heads are going to roll. I'd be surprised if Ribery ever wear the Rooster and Star again. The guy has a lot to be forgiven for.
Caxi Son of Maestrelli
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:49 pm
France situation is weird. Domenech has never selected sides that match up to his personal philosophy on football (which is arguably more mental).
Henry failing to start would be understandable under normal circumstances but that was what hit me prior to the tournament. He looked like the string-puller if anyone so why the bench now?
Gallas clearly lost authority when as vice-captain, he was overlooked and Evra preferred. Someone, somewhere, did something controversial. So to believe both were powerful figures is not logical.
I do believe Ribery is too integral and something funny is up there.
But guys, did any of you notice that some players have been wearing different kits to others? I mean, if you can't get your shirts right, it's a mess...
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Subject: Re: The One & Only 2010 World Cup Topic Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:55 pm