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Laziale`` Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 329 Age : 36 Country and city : Skopje,Macedonia Laziale since : 1999 Registration date : 2008-07-26
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:59 pm | |
| BUNCH OF IDIOTS.SUCK ROSSI PLS. | |
| | | Kurama_SSLazio Curva Nord
Number of posts : 827 Age : 36 Country and city : Romania, Bucharest Laziale since : 1997 Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:00 pm | |
| I just hope that Delio Rossi have some honor and will leave us after this disaster (can`t deny though that Napoli is 1000 classes above us in everything). | |
| | | Forza_Lazio4eva Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 213 Age : 38 Country and city : England Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:03 pm | |
| I can't believe we didn't take any of our many chances in that 1st half. We dominated it for the 40 minutes and then they had a couple of chances near the end of the half. But Zarate and Mauri really should have put us ahead.
The 2nd half ref lost it, God, football is a contact sport, so if someones arm grazes another player it does not mean it's a freekick, even if they fall over like they have been shot. What a stupid ref, fell for every single one! Their goal was extremely lucky too, admitdelly Lavezzi made a great run, but that ball wouldn't go in if it hit Siviglia in the same place another 100 times.
Still I expected a little more in the 2nd half chances wise, though we never gave up.
Forza Lazio | |
| | | Trequartista Curva Nord
Number of posts : 586 Age : 37 Country and city : Los Angeles Laziale since : 1998 Registration date : 2008-05-22
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:05 pm | |
| a real fucking disappointment. this is a match we could've won. a lot of problems to address. i personally thing this single forward system was crippling to our attack. yes, zarate is a selfish striker and if he would've scored, i probably wouldn't be down on him. but his selfishness, coupled with being tactically isolated simply looked to be detrimental to the team. pandev is a forward, not a wing player. put him up from with zarate, it's worked before, why not keep it up? Mauri starting again over Foggia? why? I wish I knew. was Foggia great when he game on? no, but I think he's proven himself a starter and Mauri has proven himself a bench warmer.
frankly, our passing in the final third was atrocious. we played many long balls and many hopeful balls. zarate contributed to this but was not the only guilty party. i think his problem was when he finally passes the ball, they are poor passes and they put the receiver in a tough position. too many times i saw pandev or mauri or whoever getting the ball at the last second when they were in an awkward position or there were multiple defenders around them. ledesma did seem to have an eye for goal, but couldn't find the target and his passing was disappointingly predictable. this was the same for mauri.
the strongest part of our team today? the defense. they were stingy the entire 90 minutes and were incredibly unlucky to concede the own goal. radu and lichtsteiner pushed forward consistently, radu of course was not as effective. crossing? hardly a decent cross all night. we did keep crossing the ball but i can't say they were getting any better as the match went on. wishful balls, really. but much improvement is needed in our attack: better passing, more creativity, and smarter play in general.
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| | | usampa Curva Nord
Number of posts : 846 Age : 42 Country and city : Bulgaria , Rousse > Now in France Laziale since : 1994 Registration date : 2008-05-22
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:06 pm | |
| We missed our chances once again... Too bad that we lost this very important game, we deserved at least a draw in view our game and opportunities.
We didn't play bad at all, I think Manfedini and Mauri peformed well. Our players didn't stop attacking but unfortunately we didn't manage to score. I can't blame anybody except our attack today....
In the first half I have the impression , as if Pandev and Zarate are playing against each other....
Good words for Carrizo this match! | |
| | | Kurama_SSLazio Curva Nord
Number of posts : 827 Age : 36 Country and city : Romania, Bucharest Laziale since : 1997 Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:07 pm | |
| My feeling was that if Napoli really wanted to score...they would. They simply played with us..and it`s nout their fault that Rossi is an idiot and put in this important match..2 bigger idiots then him: Manfredini and Mauri. And no offense..but Zarate should try playstation..he really is playing alone, he won`t pass the ball ..he wants to do everything. Pandev should wake up .. all in all..we are million light years away from Napoli. Lucky we lost just with 1-0 | |
| | | Trequartista Curva Nord
Number of posts : 586 Age : 37 Country and city : Los Angeles Laziale since : 1998 Registration date : 2008-05-22
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:08 pm | |
| - usampa wrote:
- In the first half I have the impression , as if Pandev and Zarate are playing against each other....
i couldn't have said it better. | |
| | | Matrim Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 240 Age : 43 Country and city : bulgaria Registration date : 2008-07-17
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:17 pm | |
| Well, I watched the final third of the game and while I think we do have problems, we lost due to extremely lucky goal, if we had scored such a goal to take the lead we would most likely have won, that's football for you. The biggest issue is that we simply cannot go on with crossing to Zarate and Pandev who play as support strikers...supporting no one. They worked great when we could counter-attack in September but not any more. Zarate needs to learn when and how to pass, he is becoming a very annoying ball hog. Too bad Rocchi is injured because Zarate deserves to be benched in order to control his ego a bit. of course, benching him in the second half last week probably made him even more selfish because back then he sure was more effective than Pandev, maybe that's why they didn't pass to each other a lot today, the idiots. - Quote :
- My feeling was that if Napoli really wanted to score...they would.
My feeling after reading each of your posts is that you have no clue whatsoever about football. | |
| | | usampa Curva Nord
Number of posts : 846 Age : 42 Country and city : Bulgaria , Rousse > Now in France Laziale since : 1994 Registration date : 2008-05-22
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:20 pm | |
| - Kurama_SSLazio wrote:
- My feeling was that if Napoli really wanted to score...they would. They simply played with us..and it`s nout their fault that Rossi is an idiot and put in this important match..2 bigger idiots then him: Manfredini and Mauri.
Kurama , everyone knows your opinion about Delio , Manfredini and Mauri. But today , I think you are partial towards Manfre and Mauri. They performed very well , Manfedini have made very good goal pass in the first half , stole a lot balls in the middle and both of them were creative. Zarate and Pandev , Ledesma as well were ineffective today , too bad , but true... | |
| | | Laziale`` Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 329 Age : 36 Country and city : Skopje,Macedonia Laziale since : 1999 Registration date : 2008-07-26
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:22 pm | |
| What's with Rossi???Put Manfredini ahead on Foggia And Mauri together with him...Like some one said, if he had pride he would leave right now... Sivigla???OMFG his errors wasn't enough in Bologna game, so he started again...and of course he scores an OWN goal,maybe it was unlucky but he is fucking too old to play in our defence!!!!!! I AM SO DISAPPOINTED And forgot Zarate...he thinks he is someone, he thinks he can do everything by himself???he is NOTHING!!!!!NOTHING | |
| | | Cash Lazio Eagle
Number of posts : 2163 Age : 44 Country and city : Sthlm Sweden Registration date : 2008-07-15
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:26 pm | |
| We have the same problems as we had last year...no functioning central defence and by only looking at the three last games I think it becomes obvious we are not having the quality needed. Against Lecce they scored on a header despite the fact that their striker (tiribocchi?) was alone and we had two defenders close to him. Against Bologna last week Siviglia gave away a very unnecessary free kick just outside the penalty area (as he did today when they hit the cross bar) and after that we had to push forward. On the corner the marking was just not there, and on their third goal the defenders were just torn apart despite being two against one lonely Di Vaio.
Today, it was the same again. As soon as they attack us, in depth, they become dangerous. Siviglia, who is suppossed to be the leader back there, gives away free kicks, misses clearances and eventually scores an own goal. Unlucky one might say, but as the rest of the goals conceded, the defence is just not coping. Lavezzi had a run straight forward, and without doing a dribble or anything he managed to pass two defenders. When he plays it in, Siviglia is off position (either he must attack Lavezzi leaving no space for hm to play the ball in or look where napoli has their other attackers and pick up a marking). As it turned out mow, he is left in no mans land and with that poor positioning comes the chance of a ball bouncing on him and then hit the back of the net.
When we have a low period, losing games and having problems scoring, the central defence (in our case being guided by the oldest player we have) must be solid and make sure that the rest of the game becomes relaxed. The way things have turned out, the defence is the surce of our unrest. I can see no other option than dropping Siviglia and trying out a new constelation. Diakite, Cribari, Radu and Rozenhal are the options to choose from, and Rossi must try something new now. The trend needs to be interrupted, and I am happy we have Chievo mid-week so that we can change this quickly enough. | |
| | | Gizas Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 106 Age : 33 Country and city : Lithuania, Ukmerge Registration date : 2008-05-22
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:28 pm | |
| - Kurama_SSLazio wrote:
- My feeling was that if Napoli really wanted to score...they would. They simply played with us..and it`s nout their fault that Rossi is an idiot and put in this important match..2 bigger idiots then him: Manfredini and Mauri.
And no offense..but Zarate should try playstation..he really is playing alone, he won`t pass the ball ..he wants to do everything. Pandev should wake up .. all in all..we are million light years away from Napoli. Lucky we lost just with 1-0 Seems you'll never change. Everytime something went bad, you come hear and blame Mauri for everything. We all know he's not Ronaldinho, but he's not that bad either. Today I did not see any major mistakes made by Mauri that cost us points. I understand that you don't like Mauri (I also do not like some players, it's natural), but it's unnecessary to blame him. It so annoys every day to read how Mauri and Rossi are "idiots". Back to game. We weren't bad. Our defense worked quite well. The problem was our attack. our so called playmaker Ledesma once again didn't anything good. And if he keeps playing like this, i think we won't suffer much if he leaves (only Rossi thinks he's indispensable). His passes are awful, so are his long range shots. He must improve.. Another player i didn't like today is Lichtstainer. Maybe he runs a lot, but i can't stand his crosses any more. We don't have a tall forward at our disposal so why he keeps crossing? Zarate never gonna win the ball with his head.. | |
| | | Thiago Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 214 Age : 35 Country and city : Brasil Laziale since : 1996 Registration date : 2008-06-18
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:31 pm | |
| Completely agreed on the aspect that Zarate shouldn't be left alone in the front. I would have been a better leader and player in this match than Ledesma has. In my opinion he doesn't deserve to be captain. But let's hope on Wednesday we improve ourselves and beat Chievo. | |
| | | IRR87 Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 110 Age : 40 Country and city : Belgium Turnhout Laziale since : 2005 Registration date : 2008-05-22
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:34 pm | |
| when will rossi be sacked? | |
| | | Cash Lazio Eagle
Number of posts : 2163 Age : 44 Country and city : Sthlm Sweden Registration date : 2008-07-15
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:36 pm | |
| I must add, that I think Rossi did the right thing on the midfield today. I really dislike manfredinin, but today he was needed as he is probably the only player we have who can play both ways and is always running. Yes, we do lack in creativity because of him, but we needed to avoid the game being to open. In the last part of the game, when the tactics were out of place and everybody was running up and down without any real plan, it become obvios that we would have conceded more if we had played an open game with the likes of Foggia from the start. The same goes for Mauri, who had a pretty good display today (he should have scored in the fist half though...)
For the attack, I think the problem is that both Pandev and zarate want to play slightly behind a striker. And at the moment there is no striker. Them two passing the ball to eachother doesnt really end up with a shot, but only the other one trying to dribble or find someone up front to pass the ball to and who could finish. Once again, we are a bit out of options in the squad.
Ledesma is just not performing, and unfortunately we dont even have baronio to throw in and force Ledesma to wake up.
The team, fans, coaches and everyone else involved in Lazio must stand up and show the spirit now. We must show that a few poor results will not make us lose all faith. The season is long, and it is inevitable to get caught in a low period. We have to show our support to make sure our team starts getting some results again!
NON MOLLARE MAI! Forza Lazio Per Sempre! | |
| | | Matrim Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 240 Age : 43 Country and city : bulgaria Registration date : 2008-07-17
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:46 pm | |
| - Cash wrote:
- I must add, that I think Rossi did the right thing on the midfield today. I really dislike manfredinin, but today he was needed as he is probably the only player we have who can play both ways and is always running. Yes, we do lack in creativity because of him, but we needed to avoid the game being to open. In the last part of the game, when the tactics were out of place and everybody was running up and down without any real plan, it become obvios that we would have conceded more if we had played an open game with the likes of Foggia from the start. The same goes for Mauri, who had a pretty good display today (he should have scored in the fist half though...)
For the attack, I think the problem is that both Pandev and zarate want to play slightly behind a striker. And at the moment there is no striker. Them two passing the ball to eachother doesnt really end up with a shot, but only the other one trying to dribble or find someone up front to pass the ball to and who could finish. Once again, we are a bit out of options in the squad.
Ledesma is just not performing, and unfortunately we dont even have baronio to throw in and force Ledesma to wake up.
The team, fans, coaches and everyone else involved in Lazio must stand up and show the spirit now. We must show that a few poor results will not make us lose all faith. The season is long, and it is inevitable to get caught in a low period. We have to show our support to make sure our team starts getting some results again!
NON MOLLARE MAI! Forza Lazio Per Sempre! What the hell are you doing? Trying to think rationally? Be more dramatic! Seriously, well put. Though it contradicts your previous post a bit, IMO. - Quote :
- Another player i didn't like today is Lichtstainer. Maybe he runs a lot, but i can't stand his crosses any more. We don't have a tall forward at our disposal so why he keeps crossing? Zarate never gonna win the ball with his head..
Well, even if he doesn't cross the ball we will lose it usually, so better cross and hope something happens. What I don't get is why he receives the ball in a position to cross so often, I mean, we see it's not working, yet we persevere. Shoot from outside more, tell someone to get open and Lichtsteiner to fake a cross and pass to him...maybe something would happen. | |
| | | Broencoceleste Forum Maister
Number of posts : 1218 Age : 45 Country and city : Jakarta, Indonesia Laziale since : 1998 Registration date : 2008-05-24
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:59 pm | |
| Good words Cash! I don't want to add the new negativity for today... I've had enough, you've had enough... I want to talk something positive about today: - Rozehnal was very solid at the defense today, and that maybe because ha wasn't that tired anymore... there is no doubt that Rossi should build a new defense around him, being the regular starter of the good NT like Czech speaks for itself.. - We find another alternative player for the midfield... Manfre is good and pretty decent.. Mauri is more than average player when he's on form, no doubt.. - Carrizo is getting better and better - yeah, we were lost at home... but we played good, we even outplayed them for more than 3/4 time of the game... and they're napoli, the team that beat juventus.. we're just unlucky, period! - Merda was beaten again!!! - Inter draw! so we just 4 points far from the leaders of serie A (napoli, udinese & inter)
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| | | vent Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 264 Age : 43 Country and city : Craiova/Bucharest, Romania Laziale since : 11.09.1981 Registration date : 2008-06-21
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:02 pm | |
| i think we deserved at least a draw.... only 2 goals scored and 1 draw in 3 matches is bad :( i cant understand Rossi today leaving Foggia on the bench and playing with Manfre. Zarate was dissapointing today playing only with himself. hopefully we can recover from this. forza Lazio | |
| | | Conn Honour member
Number of posts : 734 Age : 45 Country and city : Italy, Rome Laziale since : I was born Registration date : 2008-05-26
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:33 pm | |
| We didn't deserve to lose, lately it looks like we are fuc*ing unlucky.
Still, it seems like the magic of the very first part of the season has disappeared. Our forwards have no ideas, they just wait for the ball and try the slalom. We keep making too many mistakes, and today we did not believe strongly enough we could catch napulesoccer.
And I don't understand Rossi, imho he is messing up. Anyway, the good news is that we are still far away from the bottom of the table... and definitely back on earth. SVEJA. | |
| | | Laziophilic Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 279 Age : 42 Country and city : Jordan, Amman Laziale since : 1998 Registration date : 2008-05-24
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:43 pm | |
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| | | sshutchy Aquilotto
Number of posts : 2 Age : 48 Country and city : Middlesbrough England Laziale since : 1998 Registration date : 2008-10-24
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:14 pm | |
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| | | AbedElkader Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 433 Age : 38 Country and city : Lebanon, Beirut Laziale since : since i started watching European football - 1998 Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:43 pm | |
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| | | Sile LFever Team Member
Number of posts : 2737 Age : 41 Country and city : Croatia,Zagreb Laziale since : '96 Registration date : 2008-05-24
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:48 pm | |
| FYI syPhilic all your predictions and stats are worth sh1t as Siviglia was great today and owned Lavezzi especially in the final minutes.
Post delete for offensive words. By LFTEAM | |
| | | Bobbi Lazio Eagle
Number of posts : 2371 Age : 35 Country and city : Auckland NZ Laziale since : 1999 Registration date : 2008-06-21
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:11 pm | |
| A disappointing result and I don't want to say much but hopefully the team can put out a better performance in our mid-week game away to Chievo. Not the worst game by any means, unlucky again as in previous weeks,
FORZA LAZIO!!!!
NON MOLLARE MAI!!!! | |
| | | Cash Lazio Eagle
Number of posts : 2163 Age : 44 Country and city : Sthlm Sweden Registration date : 2008-07-15
| Subject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO-NAPOLI, Sunday, 26-10--08 Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:28 pm | |
| Hahaha...after such a dissapointing game it is very entertaining reading the "fight" between Laziophilic and Sile. Keep it up guys, you are definteley NOT making a fool out of yourselves... | |
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