Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.



 
HomeHome  PortalPortal  Latest imagesLatest images  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  

 

 ciao valon

Go down 
+58
milk_man999
nonmollaremai12
rockybalboa83
Ermetico
Petter
Forza_Lazio4eva
4ZALAZIO
rikk
The_Passion_Of_Lazio
Matrim
vent
Roman_Eagle
viper
Biancocelesti
Cash
ClockworkOrange
LaziOttimo
Caxi
howie
LofL
Henrik
Strategist
Bobbi
Laziophilic
Uragano
The Big Payback
Laziale_100%
Gizas
Secret_Samadhi
Irriducibili_1900
Skenderbeu
David
Giolazio
zrc
nomade
pazke
Edi
usampa
A Roma Solo La Lazio
Amir
Cecco
valdanito_10
Zdravko
frederick
Laziale020
IRR87
HITMAN
Belgio
Broencoceleste
Rami
Trequartista
Sgt. Pepper
deZio
tjamenovic
Goerlandt
Caput Mundi
Darran
nando
62 posters
Go to page : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
AuthorMessage
nando
Aquilotto
Aquilotto
nando


Number of posts : 58
Age : 37
Country and city : Montreal
Laziale since : 1997
Registration date : 2008-05-23

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptySat May 24, 2008 6:25 pm

it seems more likely that he is going to leave after the euro. in all honesty the only thing ill be vexxed about is the fact he is using article 17 to leave hes snake plain and simple, it pains me to see a player leave for little money. ciao valon believe me your memory on our team wont last long bom
Back to top Go down
Darran
Aquilotto
Aquilotto



Number of posts : 80
Age : 37
Country and city : Singapore
Laziale since : 1997
Registration date : 2008-05-23

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptySat May 24, 2008 6:48 pm

I like him as a player but he has shown us 0 respect to Lazio on this occasion.

Choosing to leave through this way is just despicable. Lazio gave you your big break and this is the way you repay us? By returning us less than 50% of what you are worth? I won't miss him at all. Why can't he leave with a good image?
Back to top Go down
Caput Mundi
LFever Team Member
LFever Team Member
Caput Mundi


Number of posts : 1434
Age : 32
Country and city : South Australia
Laziale since : nascita
Registration date : 2008-05-23

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptySat May 24, 2008 6:52 pm

Valon couldve been a Lazio legend after il derby

if he uses article 17 then let me say f*** him

massive disrespect to the club, article 17 will kill football
Back to top Go down
Goerlandt
Curva Maestrelli
Curva Maestrelli
Goerlandt


Number of posts : 273
Age : 33
Country and city : Belgium-Waregem
Laziale since : 2001
Registration date : 2008-05-24

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptySat May 24, 2008 7:09 pm

Not good. Valon should stay. No
Back to top Go down
tjamenovic
Curva Maestrelli
Curva Maestrelli
tjamenovic


Number of posts : 230
Age : 39
Country and city : Bandung
Laziale since : 1997
Registration date : 2008-05-24

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptySat May 24, 2008 7:16 pm

It's good for players desperate to leave but caged by clubs.
But do we cage him? I think we treat him almost like a superstar... We respect him...
(except by Lotito with that salary)

I understand if he wants to make Lotito pay for that, but please do not hurt the fans!

And what's so good with Sevilla?
Back to top Go down
deZio
Curva Maestrelli
Curva Maestrelli
deZio


Number of posts : 181
Age : 36
Country and city : Serbia, Indjija
Laziale since : 2002.
Registration date : 2008-05-23

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptySat May 24, 2008 8:27 pm

What does Article 17 say?

Article 17 deals with the compensation that must be paid for a breach of contract, principally but not solely the value remaining on the contract, plus a pro rata sum towards the player's original cost, if applicable. For example, player X, age 25, joins club Y for £6m on a four-year deal in summer 2004, on wages of £50,000 a week. In summer 2007 he can breach his contract by paying his club compensation of £2.6m for the value of his remaining wages, plus £1.5m for the amortised value remaining on his original transfer fee, or a total of £4.1m. Lampard signed a five-year deal in 2004, so can breach this summer for two years' wages, or about £8m. (His original £11m price tag in 2001 has already amortised to zero).
Gerrard signed a four-year deal in 2005, so could breach in summer 2008 for one year's wages, or about £5m. As a Liverpool youth product, there is no transfer cost to factor in. He is also beyond the cut-off age (23) where Liverpool could claim development costs.

So we can claim development costs... Very Happy
Back to top Go down
Sgt. Pepper
LFever Team Member
LFever Team Member
Sgt. Pepper


Number of posts : 386
Age : 46
Country and city : Denmark, Cph
Laziale since : A long time
Registration date : 2008-05-13

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptySat May 24, 2008 9:40 pm

It might appear disrespectful to use articolo 17 in order to get out the door, but in this situation I am in full understanding of Valon Behrami´s decision. He has been paied way below what he probably could have earned at other clubs and we have a President who is known for demanding astronomous over prices for his players.

With other words. By using articolo 17, Valon Behrami can with all certainty choose between more clubs than he would ever have been able to if anyone would even want to meet Lotito´s fantasy prices.

Yes, it´s a shame that players leave this way, but you should blame the way our club is being managed under Lotito rather than you should blame a player who just wants to leave one big mess called Lazio.

From a sporting point of view, I don´t really care that Behrami leaves us. He is a good player, but he is injury prone to say the least and his role in the team is in my opinion not clearly defined. A decent management could quite easily replace him, whether that counts for Lotito as well I honestly have my doubts. But well, that´s more tragic than Behrami leaving us
Back to top Go down
Trequartista
Curva Nord
Curva Nord



Number of posts : 586
Age : 37
Country and city : Los Angeles
Laziale since : 1998
Registration date : 2008-05-22

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptySun May 25, 2008 7:32 am

it's hard to see a player of his talent and fight leave, we'll need to find a suitable replacement. i'm just glad we have de silvestre to cover the right back spot.
Back to top Go down
Rami
Aquilotto
Aquilotto
Rami


Number of posts : 86
Age : 45
Country and city : Lebanon, Beirut
Laziale since : 1999
Registration date : 2008-05-24

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptySun May 25, 2008 9:54 am

it's sad how our talented players have always to leave.. he's a great player with a great heart! we're gonna miss him for sure!
Back to top Go down
Broencoceleste
Forum Maister
Forum Maister
Broencoceleste


Number of posts : 1218
Age : 45
Country and city : Jakarta, Indonesia
Laziale since : 1998
Registration date : 2008-05-24

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptySun May 25, 2008 2:16 pm

Valon oh Valon...

He is playing with his fans hearts... We loved him.. really.. especially after the derby winning goal..

Well Valon.. we know that you hate Lotito.. but so WHAT?! We hate him as well!!

We prayed for you to play brilliantly in EURO, so you can be a real superstar, so your future will be brighter, so Lotito can be pushed to increase your wage or maybe he can sell you to ManU, Real Madrid or the likes..

But you choose to betray us!! the fans..

I don't care anymore about you.. I hope you'll fail in EURO.. so you will be back to your own nature before join Lazio.. an unknown player..

PS. Sorry Belgio... I edited to my own opinion tongue


Last edited by Broencoceleste on Sun May 25, 2008 2:20 pm; edited 2 times in total
Back to top Go down
Belgio
LFever Team Member
LFever Team Member
Belgio


Number of posts : 785
Age : 37
Country and city : Italia
Laziale since : 2000
Registration date : 2008-05-09

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptySun May 25, 2008 2:18 pm

Broencoceleste wrote:
Valon oh Valon...

He is playing with his fans hearts... We loved him.. really.. especially after the derby winning goal..

Well Valon.. we know that you hate Lotito.. but so WHAT?! We hate him as well!!

We prayed for you to play brilliantly in EURO, so you can be a real superstar, so your future will be brighter, so Lotito can be pushed to increase your wage or maybe he can sell you to ManU, Real Madrid or the likes..

But you choose to betray us!! the fans..

We don't care anymore about you.. We hope you'll fail in EURO.. so you will be back to your own nature before join Lazio.. an unknown player..


Please speak in your own name...
Back to top Go down
Broencoceleste
Forum Maister
Forum Maister
Broencoceleste


Number of posts : 1218
Age : 45
Country and city : Jakarta, Indonesia
Laziale since : 1998
Registration date : 2008-05-24

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptySun May 25, 2008 2:23 pm

I did as you say, Pieter..
Sorry bout that.. Very Happy

I'm to emotional I guess...
Back to top Go down
Belgio
LFever Team Member
LFever Team Member
Belgio


Number of posts : 785
Age : 37
Country and city : Italia
Laziale since : 2000
Registration date : 2008-05-09

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptySun May 25, 2008 2:27 pm

No problem ;-)
Back to top Go down
HITMAN
Aquilotto
Aquilotto
HITMAN


Number of posts : 82
Age : 40
Country and city : Bosnia & Herzegovina, Tuzla
Laziale since : 1997
Registration date : 2008-05-24

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptySun May 25, 2008 6:28 pm

if he leavs with art 17 he will show disrespect towards Lazio.who was he before he joined us???

if he wants to leave at least he can do is to leave in normal way...
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest




ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptySun May 25, 2008 8:58 pm

Valon will lose my respect if he leave Lazio using (17) rule..... And so will Pandev altough he is my copatriot...
Back to top Go down
IRR87
Curva Maestrelli
Curva Maestrelli
IRR87


Number of posts : 110
Age : 40
Country and city : Belgium Turnhout
Laziale since : 2005
Registration date : 2008-05-22

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptySun May 25, 2008 9:22 pm

if it's true, i'll hate him for that. But until then, he still has my respect. For me he is a very talented player, one we should keep! He is still young and has a lote of room for improvement.
Back to top Go down
Laziale020
Aquilotto
Aquilotto
Laziale020


Number of posts : 27
Age : 37
Country and city : Olanda, Amsterdam
Laziale since : 1999
Registration date : 2008-05-23

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptySun May 25, 2008 11:11 pm

It would be a big mistake to underestimate his class and his potential. In a few years he can become one of the best wingers on the eurpoean fields if you ask me. But at the same time I can understand his will to play for a really big team and make some good money....
Back to top Go down
frederick
Curva Maestrelli
Curva Maestrelli



Number of posts : 410
Age : 44
Country and city : Sydney
Laziale since : 1996
Registration date : 2008-05-23

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptyMon May 26, 2008 2:29 am

No such thing as loyalty these days my friend , I totally understand his decision (if he opted to leave us)
Was/is he a scapegoat? was he really wanted to leave us? or just because he sees no future in Lazio? is it really his fault? his agent? or maybe Lotito?
Doesn't really matter for me, one man doesn't make a team.. if he wants to leave and leave..

Thanks for the memory Valon, the derby, best of luck in the future..
Back to top Go down
Zdravko
Aquilotto
Aquilotto
Zdravko


Number of posts : 51
Age : 35
Country and city : Croatia,Sisak
Laziale since : 1999
Registration date : 2008-05-24

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptyMon May 26, 2008 2:42 am

Stay with us
Back to top Go down
valdanito_10
Curva Nord
Curva Nord



Number of posts : 783
Age : 38
Country and city : dominican republic, santo domingo
Laziale since : 1997
Registration date : 2008-05-24

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptyMon May 26, 2008 4:46 am

So no hope what so ever to keep the guy. Hes on of my favs, but if he leaves under art 17 then hes the kind of player i dont want here.
Back to top Go down
Cecco
Honour member
Honour member
Cecco


Number of posts : 30
Age : 54
Country and city : Eire , Italia
Laziale since : Nascita
Registration date : 2008-05-26

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptyMon May 26, 2008 11:10 am

I actually can't beleive some people are describing Behrami as a mercenario.
He shouldn't have had the opportunity to use this rule in the first place, and who is
to blame for this? One person and one person only, lotirchio.

You people don't really beleive that today's players love the jersey do you? Maybe a
handful do but if they had to choose between big money or playing for their favourite club
beleive me 99% of them would choose big money.

Back to Behrami, he is being offered peanuts by lotirchio.....even the smaller clubs in
serie A can offer more so I don't see why he should have to accept another 5 years of
mediocre salary when he can make 3-4 times as much elsewhere.

Lotirchio is bringing this club to its knees, failing to renew important contracts before its too
late, failing to get people to the stadium, failing to communicate with the fans, failing to
give our club solid roots. basically he's failing in everything...and don't tell me that he saved us
bla bla bla.

Remember, if Behrami leaves there will be a long list of players following him in the near
future, unfortunately all our best players cause our pippas will happily stay knowing that
nobody else wants them.

lotirchio VATTENE!!!!
Back to top Go down
Amir
Curva Nord
Curva Nord
Amir


Number of posts : 595
Age : 45
Country and city : Kosovo
Laziale since : 1993
Registration date : 2008-05-23

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptyMon May 26, 2008 12:35 pm

Valon should have been offered much more than 650.000 per season as offered by Lotito.

It is ridiculous for him to stay at that salary.

He played 3 seasons being underpaid (as most of other players) - 400.000 euros per season.


Now he has matured, improved and it is reasonable that he wants more money. He is at his peak and if Rocchi and such age was offered 1 million, than Valon should have been offered at least 900.000 euros and he would have stayed for sure at such rate.

This was, we are losing our most versatile player of our team and I am so sorry for that.
Back to top Go down
A Roma Solo La Lazio
Aquilotto
Aquilotto
A Roma Solo La Lazio


Number of posts : 66
Age : 39
Country and city : Toronto, Canada
Laziale since : 1998
Registration date : 2008-05-22

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptyTue May 27, 2008 7:41 am

Ciao Valon its been nice knowing u. I thank you for what you've done for the club and understand that this is not being done for the wrong reasons but rather because you want better for yourself. Well Good Luck with your future endevours
Back to top Go down
usampa
Curva Nord
Curva Nord
usampa


Number of posts : 846
Age : 42
Country and city : Bulgaria , Rousse > Now in France
Laziale since : 1994
Registration date : 2008-05-22

ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptyTue May 27, 2008 11:10 am

A Roma Solo La Lazio wrote:
Ciao Valon its been nice knowing u. I thank you for what you've done for the club and understand that this is not being done for the wrong reasons but rather because you want better for yourself. Well Good Luck with your future endevours
I have the same opinion about Valons leaving. It was pleasure to watch Behrami and De Silvestri running all over the pitch. Together with Radu I thought this is the Future of Lazio. Definitely we are loosing essential player and it will be difficult to replace him .
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest




ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon EmptyTue May 27, 2008 11:40 am

its not his fault he's using the art 17
wouldnt u if u knew u could get double the money somewhere else?

thanx for il derby
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content





ciao valon Empty
PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   ciao valon Empty

Back to top Go down
 
ciao valon
Back to top 
Page 1 of 6Go to page : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
 Similar topics
-
» Ciao MR DELIO ROSSI!
» Ciao capitano
» Ciao Lorenzo.
» 18 January 1977 - 18 January 2010. Ciao Cecco
» Ciao Gianni.

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
 :: SS LAZIO 1900 :: Only SS Lazio-
Jump to: