Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3

Caxi wrote:

I've watched Coloccini at least 10 times in the past year. Even if he came for free and we paid no wages, I still wouldn't want him.

His inability to defend is part of the reason Newcastle got relegated in the first place. I watched him against West Brom last week and he was a complete mess, responsible for the first goal they conceded and making mistakes all game long.

There's a reason why he flopped at Depor, Milan and Newcastle; he's below par and way out of his depth.

he didnt flop at depor , i guess he starred for them and at milan he was very young , at newcastle not all the argentineans succeed in england.

I agree he wasn't considered a flop at Depor, that was harsh of me, but in my opinion, he was overrated there. Milan must have saw something in him. Having watched him for Newcastle, I would agree with Taib, I would say he is below the standard of any of our defenders at least nowadays. I know it's very easy to make a sweeping statement like this but...he's Serie C material, at best.

He makes woeful mistakes, lacks pace and doesn't track back, loses his marker frequently; he is the worst of all the options out there.

It's hard to know who we are after but Civelli sounds like a Lotito speciality in the making while I'm sure Ballardini would feel he could bring on Canini's game and I think both guys would recognise the quality of Dainelli. But with Coloccini, it's a gamble on a reputation because the player, at present, is nowhere near good enough for us.

I said it months ago but I'll say it again, particularly with Pandev, we should have put a low figure on his head; about 6 million because people might pay a sum like that to ensure they get a player of his quality, like West Ham did with Behrami. We could have taken that money, raised a few more million from sales and made some moves on a player like Kjaer; a young gun who is already good enough to start for us. Instead, we have hung around too long and although we still have time, the new guy has had no pre-season to get good and fit and adjusted to his teammates. Generally, Lotito always delivers the goods so I'm not too worried; but I do believe he has made a costly mistake.

Another rumor, Senderos offered to Lazio

I bet he and Gallas will land on Olimpico.

I think that Lotito is now calculating in his room alone. He need to resolve the disidenti situation. Which can lead to two things either he sell them for cash or he will swap them. Also I think he want to use our deadwood as a weapon on the mercato and get the best deal possible. Overall I assume he calculate how to get players without money and make some from selling them.

I'm just afraid that only the rotten apples will remain on the appletree.

Gallas is no chance, get it out of your heads.

Actually, one reason why Canini may have been mentioned or is at least plausible is because he played under Ballardini at Sambenedettese in 2004-2005.

He wasn't the only one, so did Bogliacino, Julio Cesar de Leon and a certain Cigarini. Davide brought a load of unknowns to Serie C2 and now they are all Serie A players. Says it all really.

That makes Canini a mouthwatering prospect for me.

Canini for me is the best option but I read Cagliari and Lazio can't reach an agreement. Like you said Caxi, he has worked with Ballardini before and got the best out of him. If Michele came to Lazio, it would be a terrific deal indeed!

Materazzi and Dainelli are good options as well.

Although Matrix is often injured and age is not on his side, when he is on form he is brilliant. He has been one of my favourite players over the last few years. Sadly his wages could be a huge stumbling block however and his agent seems to be playing down the link.

Dainelli is 30, a good age for a central defender. Solid, reliable, experienced and ex-Viola captain. Would be a very good addition. They are interested in De Silvestri, maybe Lotito could use that to Lazio's advantage.

I read Lotito and Ballardini are thinking about Lorenzo Stovini (32). This guy was very good 2-3 seasons ago but I don't really know how he did at Catania.

Jofo wrote:

Another rumor, Senderos offered to Lazio

Senderos ? No thanks! I'd better stay with what we have.

Miranda from Sao Paulo.

He is now our top target after missing out on Lugano.

24 Year Old Brazilian International centre Back.

Apparentley we are set to bid for him with the money made from the sale of De Silvestri.

However it is said to be a difficult negotiation.

Now this is one of very few out there, who would be better than Lugano

Source = Tuttomercatoweb

http://www.lalaziosiamonoi.it/?action=read&idnotizia=6701

Interesting for a few reasons.

Pandev to Zenit seems to be on the cards but the price seems extravagant...but it is Zenit after all.

According to Cellino, we asked about Canini three weeks ago but we didn't come up with the cash. Now, I know many people are convinced that Lugano was the objective but honestly, I think he was just one of several options. I don't think Lugano was top of the list and I don't believe Canini is either but I do believe they were on the "shortlist."

Gallas has to be a no-go, Coloccini should be a no-go so I am leaning towards Civelli now. You would have to think that he has a club lined up and considering we have been linked with him and that we pulled of a similar deal with Cruz, I am inclined to believe he is a real possibility now.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2009/08/18/1447289/roma-lazio-fighting-over-sampdoria-midfielder-paolo-sammarco


Who is this guy? Would he be a good backup for us. Id get him just so roma dont..

flurffmeister wrote:

Caxi wrote:

I've watched Coloccini at least 10 times in the past year. Even if he came for free and we paid no wages, I still wouldn't want him.

His inability to defend is part of the reason Newcastle got relegated in the first place. I watched him against West Brom last week and he was a complete mess, responsible for the first goal they conceded and making mistakes all game long.

There's a reason why he flopped at Depor, Milan and Newcastle; he's below par and way out of his depth.

he didnt flop at depor , i guess he starred for them and at milan he was very young , at newcastle not all the argentineans succeed in england.

You can not just make that excuse that Argentinineans do not succeed in England. You have to look at his performances. How anyone can legitimise his performances is beyond me. He is just rubbish. Like I said. He has not got any pace. He is clumsy. Position wise non-existent. Can not tackle. No ball control. There is nothing good about him. He adds nothing and is a liability. We must not sign him under any circumstances otherwise Lazio will be making a massive mistake. We would be taking a mssive step backwards. I honestly can not stress without using excessive expletives how utter s.hit Collocini is.

goal.com says Ledesma might stay

Roman_Eagle wrote:

goal.com says Ledesma might stay

Where?

All I read was that Ladesma and Lotito could have a meeting.

I hope he does stay though. He is pivitol to our play.

Yes and on top of that, Simplicio seems intent on staying with Palermo. I think we left it too late with that deal and gave Zenga too much time to talk him around.

Another failed mercato.

Miranda and Sammarco would be both more than welcome.

centrocampista wrote:

Another failed mercato.

That's something new for you?

centrocampista wrote:

Another failed mercato.

i dont think ud ever be satisifed even if Lotito buys kaka ronaldo and ribery.

flurffmeister wrote:

centrocampista wrote:

Another failed mercato.

i dont think ud ever be satisifed even if Lotito buys kaka ronaldo and ribery.

even if Lotito bought Kaka, Ronaldo and Ribery .... bought.

I don´t care about Lotito, I just want my club to have a strategy.

Nothing to do with Lazio, but Bologna have just signed Portanova (with Terzi going in the opposite direction). I'm sure that if Lotito made Siena a decent offer or exchange deal - Daniele would have easily signed with his boyhood team. He would have been a top signing.

In other news.....

Goal says Lazio are interested in acquiring a South American central defender. Options are Miranda (Sao Paulo), Rever (Gremio) and Gustavo (Cruziero). Again, the report mentions Rodriguez (Braga).

Milan are very interested in De Silvestri and keen to offer either Oddo or Kaladze in exchange. Is this another joke!?

Bobbi wrote:

Nothing to do with Lazio, but Bologna have just signed Portanova (with Terzi going in the opposite direction). I'm sure that if Lotito made Siena a decent offer or exchange deal - Daniele would have easily signed with his boyhood team. He would have been a top signing.

In other news.....

Goal says Lazio are interested in acquiring a South American central defender. Options are Miranda (Sao Paulo), Rever (Gremio) and Gustavo (Cruziero). Again, the report mentions Rodriguez (Braga).

Milan are very interested in De Silvestri and keen to offer either Oddo or Kaladze in exchange. Is this another joke!?

I could settle with Kaladze, dont know how old he is though? Big NO to Oddo.
But most of all I want Abate for Lollo.

He's 31. I suppose I'd take him, but it is absurd giving away a young talent for a guy who has just a few left. Might be less of a gamble than searching South America.

Trequartista wrote:

He's 31. I suppose I'd take him, but it is absurd giving away a young talent for a guy who has just a few left. Might be less of a gamble than searching South America.

I would take money and kaladze on loan for LDS, and then buy 1 or two of these south american defenders since they are young. When kaladze's loan is done, the young defenders.. diakite, and these south americans should be ready to fit in.

Bobbi wrote:

Nothing to do with Lazio, but Bologna have just signed Portanova (with Terzi going in the opposite direction). I'm sure that if Lotito made Siena a decent offer or exchange deal - Daniele would have easily signed with his boyhood team. He would have been a top signing.

centrocampista wrote:

Bobbi wrote:

Nothing to do with Lazio, but Bologna have just signed Portanova (with Terzi going in the opposite direction). I'm sure that if Lotito made Siena a decent offer or exchange deal - Daniele would have easily signed with his boyhood team. He would have been a top signing.

I couldn't agree more, he was the obvious candidate and I think it was also clear that he was on his way out of Siena. Shame.