Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3

Giolazio wrote:

Roman_Eagle wrote:

Boyd scored two last night :)

He is in great form, but it's a massive jump from playing St. Johnstone and Falkirk than Juve, Inter etc. However I read Lotito saying when asked about Boyd: 'Who is Kris Boyd? I've never heard this name until now'

And the reporters said: "but Tare inform us about him''
L: "Who the hell is Tare"

Jofo wrote:

Giolazio wrote:

Roman_Eagle wrote:

Boyd scored two last night :)

He is in great form, but it's a massive jump from playing St. Johnstone and Falkirk than Juve, Inter etc. However I read Lotito saying when asked about Boyd: 'Who is Kris Boyd? I've never heard this name until now'

And the reporters said: "but Tare inform us about him''
L: "Who the hell is Tare"

Ha ha ha ha, and who the hell are you?

Dont know how truthfull this rumour is, but German newcommers Hoffenheim lost their, and the leagues, top scorer due to injury (Ibisevic, will probably be out for a longer period) and now they are searching for a replacement...and they think they have found a decent replacement in MAKINWA!

goal is reporting on this today as well as some other sources from Italy and Germany...

http://www.goal.com/en/news/698/lazio/2009/01/18/1066253/lazio-striker-makinwa-on-hoffenheims-radar-report

Cash wrote:

Dont know how truthfull this rumour is, but German newcommers Hoffenheim lost their, and the leagues, top scorer due to injury (Ibisevic, will probably be out for a longer period) and now they are searching for a replacement...and they think they have found a decent replacement in MAKINWA!

goal is reporting on this today as well as some other sources from Italy and Germany...

http://www.goal.com/en/news/698/lazio/2009/01/18/1066253/lazio-striker-makinwa-on-hoffenheims-radar-report

I hope so. They have billions of dollars and might even hand us the 7 million euro we paid for him.

or am I dreaaming?

c. testa wrote:

I hope so. They have billions of dollars and might even hand us the 7 million euro we paid for him.

or am I dreaaming?

That would be a dream come true!

I like Makinwa but I too have to agree that he needs to go and wherever he goes I hope he rediscovers some good form. As for Hoffenheim and Ibisevic its very sad and unfortunate that this has happened.

Fornaroli (who we were linked with in the summer) is expected to leave Samp.

Same agent as Ledesma so I wonder, just wonder, if Lotito might make a little move.

Caxi wrote:

Fornaroli (who we were linked with in the summer) is expected to leave Samp.

Same agent as Ledesma so I wonder, just wonder, if Lotito might make a little move.

I think I read the headline for that on Goal. He has not played much at Sampdoria and as you mention Caxi we were linked to him so maybe Lotito could make a move but Lazio already has enough strikers in the team.

Do you guys remember we were linked with Fernando Forestieri maybe 2 seasons ago?
He was being dubbed as one of the next big players coming through from Argentina but has Italian heritage and as far as I remember he opted to represent Italy in the future should he be called up. He eventually went to Siena and he has just left the Tuscans and joined Vicenza in Serie B. Its hard to believe his form has dropped quite a bit if he can not get much game time at Siena and now is being shipped off to a lower league table.

Bobbi wrote:

Caxi wrote:

Fornaroli (who we were linked with in the summer) is expected to leave Samp.

Same agent as Ledesma so I wonder, just wonder, if Lotito might make a little move.

I think I read the headline for that on Goal. He has not played much at Sampdoria and as you mention Caxi we were linked to him so maybe Lotito could make a move but Lazio already has enough strikers in the team.

Do you guys remember we were linked with Fernando Forestieri maybe 2 seasons ago?
He was being dubbed as one of the next big players coming through from Argentina but has Italian heritage and as far as I remember he opted to represent Italy in the future should he be called up. He eventually went to Siena and he has just left the Tuscans and joined Vicenza in Serie B. Its hard to believe his form has dropped quite a bit if he can not get much game time at Siena and now is being shipped off to a lower league table.

i believe he is about 21years old and is of uruguayan decent guys...he came from nacional montevideo..not out of argentina..he played only 3 games for samp..so with pazzini there now you would think he would want to go...

For the first time ever, I see a possibility that Rocchi may depart:

http://www.goal.com/en/news/698/lazio/2009/01/20/1069337/lazio-captain-tommaso-rocchis-agent-ambiguous-over-transfer-spec

I think we should sell if the right money comes along. I know this may be controversial but seeing as Tommaso is captain, I think it's problematic now. Here's why:

1. He's keeping Foggia out of the team.
2. He's causing Zarate to get upset when Mauro plays better than him on average and still gets subbed ahead of Tommaso.
3. Ledesma is a better captain in my opinion and much more important to the overall team.
4. He's getting old and can't be captain for too long.

Now if we sold the likes of Zauri and Mutarelli because they caused problems in the dressing room then we might have to do the same with Tommaso. It's not that he is a negative influence, in fact, he's great in terms of influence but the thing is, his constant selection may cause problems down the line.

If we lose Zarate and Foggia and perhaps Ledesma because Rocchi, as captain is persistently played, then we will be in deep trouble.

All very good points Caxi and I agree with all of them but at the same time its hard to accept that Rocchi of all people might be leaving us soon!

I thought he would finish his career here in a few years time and seeing as he is captain and how he has shown his great love for Lazio that he would definitely stay at Formello. I don't want to sell Rocchi. He is the captain, the symbol of Lazio - brings experience, motivation, love, skill, commitment, everything really to the teams game and if we sold him, to me, it would feel like selling off or releasing Nesta or Di Canio and even players like Veron and Almeyda. But as you mention, perhaps he is causing trouble and miss communication and if so then something serious needs to be done. If we look at Rocchi's stay or departure for the good of Lazio in the future then perhaps, yes, it is time to sell Tommaso. Lotito and Rossi are building a squad for the future and so far they have done a very good job. If his selection keeps out players like Foggia, Meghni, Ledesma, Zarate or Pandev - or even De Silvestri (because of his spot on the team jeopardises the formation Rossi decides to play in every match), then this is not good at all for Lazio' future and the project being undertaken here. I would be ecstatic if Rocchi decides to stay - but he needs to accept that Lazio are building a project based on youth and for the good of the team and club unfortunately he cannot always be offered a starting position because generally if he starts it is usually Foggia who has to sit out the beginning of the match and Pasquale too is a very important player for Lazio and if he is not treated right and given fair playing time for Lazio, then without a doubt he will start looking for a new club and in all fairness, he cannot be blamed. He has stated numerous times he loves the Biancocelesti and wants to remain in Rome with Lazio so that also needs to be appreciated and respected.

Bobbi wrote:

All very good points Caxi and I agree with all of them but at the same time its hard to accept that Rocchi of all people might be leaving us soon!

I thought he would finish his career here in a few years time and seeing as he is captain and how he has shown his great love for Lazio that he would definitely stay at Formello. I don't want to sell Rocchi. He is the captain, the symbol of Lazio - brings experience, motivation, love, skill, commitment, everything really to the teams game and if we sold him, to me, it would feel like selling off or releasing Nesta or Di Canio and even players like Veron and Almeyda. But as you mention, perhaps he is causing trouble and miss communication and if so then something serious needs to be done. If we look at Rocchi's stay or departure for the good of Lazio in the future then perhaps, yes, it is time to sell Tommaso. Lotito and Rossi are building a squad for the future and so far they have done a very good job. If his selection keeps out players like Foggia, Meghni, Ledesma, Zarate or Pandev - or even De Silvestri (because of his spot on the team jeopardises the formation Rossi decides to play in every match), then this is not good at all for Lazio' future and the project being undertaken here. I would be ecstatic if Rocchi decides to stay - but he needs to accept that Lazio are building a project based on youth and for the good of the team and club unfortunately he cannot always be offered a starting position because generally if he starts it is usually Foggia who has to sit out the beginning of the match and Pasquale too is a very important player for Lazio and if he is not treated right and given fair playing time for Lazio, then without a doubt he will start looking for a new club and in all fairness, he cannot be blamed. He has stated numerous times he loves the Biancocelesti and wants to remain in Rome with Lazio so that also needs to be appreciated and respected.

Guys what do you seriously think we would get for Rocchi? if its 10million its a different story but i wouldn't sell him for any less..

He is our captain and sure he is not performing at his peak but remember he has been injured for some time. Rocchi,Pandev and Zarate is widely knows as pretty much the best attacking line up in the serie a..and they are producing and i think Rocchi can only get better..

I think if he left or was sold it would cause a lot of unrest amongst lazio fans and players..

I take your point about the communication but from what i saw on the weekend its not just the strikers but Carizzo and his centre backs! So i wouldnt point the finger straight at the captain! He shouldn't be used as a scapegoat for Zarate's outbursts either!

Depends on what the offer is but i think Rocchi's agent is playing games..

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He's causing Zarate to get upset when Mauro plays better than him on average and still gets subbed ahead of Tommaso.

Er, Zarate starts in every game and has been subbed only a handful of times. If he can't handle that, he can go to hell, as far as I am concerned, we are football team, not a kindergarden. Not to mention he is a fantasista/support striker/winger (whatever you want to call it) while Rocchi is more of a penalty box predator. We need different types of forwards, it's just stupid to sell our most productive forward in the past several seasons in the middle of the season which would leave us with only two decent forwads. Three if you count Foggia as a forward but all of them too similar to one another. And of course, the fact that thje agent declined to comment is a huge hint that no transfer is to happen. When there is the slightest possibility of a transfer agents always boast about how many clubs want their client. And why in the name of humanity would Rocchi abandon his regular (even if under threat in the future) starting place in Lazio to go to fiorentina where he will be a sub of Mutu and Gilardino for certain? They won't offer him much money than we pay him. This really seems to me as one of those brilliant pieces of journalism goal.com is notorious for. And last but not least, I really don't think Rocchi starts often just because he is a captain.

Bobbi wrote:

All very good points Caxi and I agree with all of them but at the same time its hard to accept that Rocchi of all people might be leaving us soon!

I thought he would finish his career here in a few years time and seeing as he is captain and how he has shown his great love for Lazio that he would definitely stay at Formello. I don't want to sell Rocchi. He is the captain, the symbol of Lazio - brings experience, motivation, love, skill, commitment, everything really to the teams game and if we sold him, to me, it would feel like selling off or releasing Nesta or Di Canio and even players like Veron and Almeyda. But as you mention, perhaps he is causing trouble and miss communication and if so then something serious needs to be done. If we look at Rocchi's stay or departure for the good of Lazio in the future then perhaps, yes, it is time to sell Tommaso. Lotito and Rossi are building a squad for the future and so far they have done a very good job. If his selection keeps out players like Foggia, Meghni, Ledesma, Zarate or Pandev - or even De Silvestri (because of his spot on the team jeopardises the formation Rossi decides to play in every match), then this is not good at all for Lazio' future and the project being undertaken here. I would be ecstatic if Rocchi decides to stay - but he needs to accept that Lazio are building a project based on youth and for the good of the team and club unfortunately he cannot always be offered a starting position because generally if he starts it is usually Foggia who has to sit out the beginning of the match and Pasquale too is a very important player for Lazio and if he is not treated right and given fair playing time for Lazio, then without a doubt he will start looking for a new club and in all fairness, he cannot be blamed. He has stated numerous times he loves the Biancocelesti and wants to remain in Rome with Lazio so that also needs to be appreciated and respected.

Players that are afraid of the competition are weak players.
That is my description of rocchi.
Thanx for everything and have nice time elsewhere.

It´s good to see Mutarelli go because the guy deserves to play. He was great for Lazio then came the injury and then he never really got the chance to come back. It´s a common situation when players feel like the club "screwed" them. Hopefully Laziofans will remember Mutarelli as a warrior.

Good Luck man!!

Poor Mutarelli, but now he is gone.
Good luck in Bologna and I hope that Muta is taking care of him hehe.

Still wating for Makinwa, Manfredini, Simione, Cribari, Mauri to leave.
GO LOTITO GO!!!! MOVE!!!

Gaston Cellerino is our first purchase
according to
www.tuttomercatoweb.com

Skenderbeu wrote:

Still wating for Makinwa, Manfredini, Simione, Cribari, Mauri to leave.
GO LOTITO GO!!!! MOVE!!!

Can't agree more maybe just enlarge the list: Del Nero, Sivigla, Belleri..
In order to improve we must first clean out the garbage. The money that we save from this all sales are way too big for Lazio but I would be happy only with Zarate deal and Pandev new contract.

Gastón Cellerino (born 26 June 1986 in Viedma, Río Negro Province) is an Argentine footballer who plays for Club Social de Deportes Rangers in the Primera División de Chile.

Cellerino played youth football in the infant divisions of Boca Juniors.

He has previously played for Deportivo Patagonés of Argentina, Universidad San Martín de Porres in the Primera División Peruana, and Atenas de San Carlos in the Segunda División Uruguay.

In the Clausura 2008 tournament, Cellerino led Rangers as top goal scorer, with a total of 16 goals,[2] before his team was eliminated against Club Deportivo Palestino in the tournament's semi-finals.

One can only remember the great bicycle kick goal that he scored against Club Deportivo Palestino, that not only his teammates applauded, but also the referee Carlos Chandía. This is a player that together with fellow striker Enzo Gutiérrez produce great results for the "rojinegro" team.

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I saw a report saying Makinwa to Chievo sould be sorted out today! I guess we'll know if he isn't in the team tonight. It seemed insane to even consider playing him even if he stays, Rocchi needs the games to get back his sharpness.

Officialy
Makinwa loaned to Chievo.

Dejan wrote:

Officialy
Makinwa loaned to Chievo.

but I will only believe this when his luggage is actually in Verona

loaned? damn, i wanted some money from this.

Dejan wrote:

Officialy
Makinwa loaned to Chievo.

WTF Loaned what is Lotito thinking.

be happy we wont be seeing him at least this season.

Burdisso has been put up for sale at Inter and he would be great for the defense if we sell cribari.

I think Lotito want's to sell Makinwa more the us.
Makinwa for Lotito is a mission failed but the fact is that nobody wan't really to buy him?
Like Zauri, like Belleri, like Baronio, Like Quadri, Like Simone . . . . . and more.

Lotito want's to much, he want the money nobody want to give him and then it's stop.
I can understand the others who want to buy from Lotito, beacuse he is bastardo.

Lotito has done the right thing.

He doesn't necessarily want the money we paid back. He wants what Makinwa is worth. He won't get it until Makinwa shows what he's worth hence the loan. In 6 months time, we can reevaluate the situation. If Maki lives up to his potential prior to his Lazio days then he will be very useful so good move Lotito.