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Bobbi Lazio Eagle
Number of posts : 2371 Age : 35 Country and city : Auckland NZ Laziale since : 1999 Registration date : 2008-06-21
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:28 am | |
| Stendardo deserves his chance this season and I hope he gets it. He has potential and only a few seasons ago he was playing very well for Lazio. I doubt Juventus got him on loan for no reason at all. They also saw the potential in him and he did alright there. Had he joined them on loan for the entire season, he would have adapted even better to their style and might have been bought fully. I like his commitment and passion. Not very fast, but he is good in the air and pretty solid. As Caxi mentioned, a back line of Stendardo and Cribari might turn out to be very productive for us this season, if both players remain off course - and with Siviglia, Diakite and Radu as back ups, perhaps there is no need for another central defender.
As for the rumours - Lugano is solid and reliable for his NT and Fenerbache, but at the same time he may be a bit of a risk considering he only has Turkish and some UCL experience. Also he is demanding too much. Dainelli would be a safer bet, as is a player like Canini with age on his side. | |
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martinese Curva Nord
Number of posts : 784 Age : 34 Country and city : Bulgaria, Sofia Laziale since : 1998 Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:34 am | |
| - Bobbi wrote:
As for the rumours - Lugano for me is a bit of a risk as he only has Turkish and some UCL experience, and also demands too much. Dainelli would be a safer bet, and a player like Canini is also very tempting. I fully agree but it looks like Lotito doesn't think so .. | |
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killer89 Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 109 Age : 35 Country and city : Sweden Skövde Laziale since : 1999 Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:24 pm | |
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frederick Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 410 Age : 44 Country and city : Sydney Laziale since : 1996 Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:22 pm | |
| Stendardo had his chances, imo, he isn't good enough for Lecce, Juventus (they had reason not to buy him) and for us. Although he scored quite a lot from set pieces, he also made a lot of mistakes.
Time is running out for us getting a new CB, Lugano's deal seems near but yet too far. And as Ivan pointed out, it isn't right giving him 2 million euro straight up, while other players who I believe deserve at least 2 million euro/season or more don't get it.
Back to what we have rather than what we could have, for me, at this moment, Radu and Cribari as our best combo for CB's | |
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centrocampista Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 416 Age : 49 Country and city : sweden, malmo Laziale since : 1997 Registration date : 2008-05-28
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:47 pm | |
| - Caxi wrote:
- I'm going to wade in here and say my piece
A huge part of what happened to us defensively was Rossi and in addition to that, his tendency to bow under fan pressure. First of all, he began the season with the tried and tested Siviglia and the relatively solid Rozehnal. The problem with this for me was that clearly Sebastiano's legs are going; his head can be in the right place but the legs are going and I don't feel this is a harsh statement for I'd say the same about Nesta or Cannavaro who I believe are actually younger than him. Age catches up with people you know; there are few exceptions.
Rozehnal is just an average defender; there is no real improvement in him, we're talking about a guy who was good at a poor PSG side and forced out of Newcastle. Sure, he turns in a set of decent performances when surrounded by fellow Czechs who speak his language and are fairly decent players in their own right but Lazio is a completely different matter.
Stendardo had a fall out with Rossi; he did very well for us until that point. Juve took a punt on him and the media were speculating that he could make the national team. At 25/26 years of age, that was a mega place to be. So, the prospect of having Guglielmo back is mouthwatering and his achievements at Lecce should be overlooked; it's 1 year of his career at a club he probably didn't want to be playing for.
Cribari is a strange case. I've stated many times in the past why I believe he's our best defender but I truly think a partnership between him and Rozehnal would have worked last season if it was given a fair chance. They were excellent in their first game together and do you guys remember what killed it? That unfortunate slip by Rozehnal. Delio decided to switch things around after that.
Radu is believed to be a competent centre-back but he is still, in my opinion, an unknown entity. Suggestions that he should start for us are sort of ludicrous. Only Ballardini can really determine that. The same goes for Diakite'. Some of you may remember me begging for him to be given a chance last October/November only for me to receive a backlash. Two months later, people hastily changed their opinion. My viewpoint hasn't changed; he is a talent, potentially a very good defender who needs game time but he is a year or two off becoming a permanent fixture for us. That, I believe, is the reality.
Stendardo and Cribari would form a solid backline and Radu and Diakite' are the perfect back-ups; nice, fresh, spritely beings. Even with Rozehnal's departure, I don't think we need Lugano, I really don't think he is better than what we have got and I rather that money goes towards buying a top quality midfielder because goodness knows Matuzalem/Dabo/Brocchi are hardly bulletproof and it doesn't entice Ledesma into staying. Some will say "but sure Lugano is free" but it would be foolish to believe that neither player or superagent won't get a little upfront payment from our president.
However, that is just my opinion and if you actually read all that, kudos to you As always you make no sense. Rossi (the man!) had to play with crappy defenders because Lotito has no money. - Stendardo has made no impression ever ni his career ... a couple of decent games with Juve is the best he has done. - Dikate is big and strong but so is andre the giant and that doesn´t make him a great defender. - Cribari was under Rossi almost a candidate for the national team. Then things went sour but all things go sour under Lotito. - Siv is not getting younger this much is true. - Radu we all wanted to be the next Chivu but then again Chivu hasn´t been great since his days in Ajax. - Rozenhal was our best defender and that´s probably the saddest part of this story since he sucked. My opinion is that we kill Lotito and sell his organs to buy a brand new pair of central defenders. Selling any of our midfielders besides the obvious (mauri for example) is just stupid. To sell Ledesma now is just suicide. | |
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Giolazio LFever Team Member
Number of posts : 2665 Age : 40 Country and city : Glasgow, Scozia Laziale since : 1990 Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:55 pm | |
| Centro..... Why don't you pretend you are Lotito, just for an experiment, and write us a budget plan for this season. Detail all our income and expenditure, including all our debt repayments and interest. Then with whatever money we have available for transfers, wages, signing on fees etc. tell us who we should sign and I will personally email this to Lotito to show him how the club should be run. | |
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Bridge-Bhoy Curva Nord
Number of posts : 931 Age : 34 Country and city : Northern Ireland Laziale since : 2002 Registration date : 2008-08-29
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:13 pm | |
| Im 100% a Radu - Simplicio swap.
Zenga his ex-coach, would make him a star and how stupid would we look.
The best is stil to come from radu./ | |
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Caxi Son of Maestrelli
Number of posts : 3884 Age : 35 Country and city : Ireland Laziale since : 1995 Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:20 pm | |
| - centrocampista wrote:
- - Stendardo has made no impression ever ni his career ... a couple of decent games with Juve is the best he has done.
Not many players can say they played in a Lazio and Juve defence. That's enough of an 'impression' for me. Not saying that makes him world class but that's a far better impession than our "best defender" Rozehnal ever made. - centrocampista wrote:
- - Dikate is big and strong but so is andre the giant and that doesn´t make him a great defender.
Since when has being tall correlated into being a bad defender? - centrocampista wrote:
- - Cribari was under Rossi almost a candidate for the national team. Then things went sour but all things go sour under Lotito.
That is a ludicrous statement. I think if you ever listened to Emilson, you might find he is leaving because Rossi made him a scapegoat and the Curva sided with our coach. Absolutely nothing to do with Claudio. I might "make no sense" but I don't twist known facts to form some part in an anti-Lotito campaign. I don't mind the fact you have issues with Lotito; I really don't and I probably tolerate it more than most but if you want to be listened to (which I presume you do or else you wouldn't be here) then I would avoid twisting the facts and consequently telling another member that he makes no sense. That, for me, is what makes no sense. Now that Rozehnal is gone, I would like to hear who you would bring in but the problem is, if your candidate fails at Lazio, we all know who's fault it would be... | |
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joeyd816 Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 108 Age : 35 Country and city : USA, New York Registration date : 2009-07-17
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:38 pm | |
| Omg... This Cruz smelling as is killing me.... Article this morning says hes close.. an hour later, tare corrects the statement and says he is not... Of course we would all be excited for a new striker but i dont know about cruz, maybe he will work well with zarate but i think that if lazio do want him, its only a temporary fillin for this year or 2 until somebody elses contract becomes free.. truthfully I rather see a different (younger) big name this year, we are in europe now, but it seems like everything is always about future, there never is a now moment.. | |
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phantomm1976 Curva Nord
Number of posts : 841 Age : 48 Country and city : kosova Laziale since : 1992 Registration date : 2008-06-19
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:47 pm | |
| i agree that stendardo deserves hes chance(but not as a starter in the beging of seasos),we need some good CD,like it or not roz was our best CD | |
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valdanito_10 Curva Nord
Number of posts : 783 Age : 38 Country and city : dominican republic, santo domingo Laziale since : 1997 Registration date : 2008-05-24
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:58 pm | |
| gala just landed elano for 9 mil.
We are loosing out on everyone. | |
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joeyd816 Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 108 Age : 35 Country and city : USA, New York Registration date : 2009-07-17
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:36 pm | |
| - valdanito_10 wrote:
- gala just landed elano for 9 mil.
We are loosing out on everyone. as usual | |
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LaziOttimo Curva Nord
Number of posts : 543 Age : 38 Country and city : Romania,Szovata Laziale since : 1998 Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:46 pm | |
| - joeyd816 wrote:
- valdanito_10 wrote:
- gala just landed elano for 9 mil.
We are loosing out on everyone. as usual Yes,we are Lazio...We'll sign players on the 31st august!One defender from Serie B,one midfielder from our Primavera!For this we must sell Ledesma,Pandev,Silvestri!What a great management | |
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flurffmeister Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 269 Age : 39 Country and city : Canada/Alberta/Calgary Beirut/Lebanon Laziale since : 1997 Registration date : 2008-05-22
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:51 pm | |
| - LaziOttimo wrote:
- joeyd816 wrote:
- valdanito_10 wrote:
- gala just landed elano for 9 mil.
We are loosing out on everyone. as usual Yes,we are Lazio...We'll sign players on the 31st august!One defender from Serie B,one midfielder from our Primavera!For this we must sell Ledesma,Pandev,Silvestri!What a great management stop nagging we have a decent squad !! we only need few reinforcements!!!! | |
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LaziOttimo Curva Nord
Number of posts : 543 Age : 38 Country and city : Romania,Szovata Laziale since : 1998 Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:23 pm | |
| - flurffmeister wrote:
- LaziOttimo wrote:
- joeyd816 wrote:
- valdanito_10 wrote:
- gala just landed elano for 9 mil.
We are loosing out on everyone. as usual Yes,we are Lazio...We'll sign players on the 31st august!One defender from Serie B,one midfielder from our Primavera!For this we must sell Ledesma,Pandev,Silvestri!What a great management stop nagging we have a decent squad !! we only need few reinforcements!!!! Where are they?Until the Serie A and Europa League starts we must be ready... | |
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Ed Curva Nord
Number of posts : 688 Age : 42 Country and city : England, Cambridge Laziale since : 1998 Registration date : 2008-07-23
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:21 pm | |
| Rau for Simplicio must be a joke... really... I mean come on, how idiotic would that be? Zamparini reckons he's so gracious to be eyeing up a straight swap with no cash involved as they have enough funds... yeah thanks Mr... | |
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Bridge-Bhoy Curva Nord
Number of posts : 931 Age : 34 Country and city : Northern Ireland Laziale since : 2002 Registration date : 2008-08-29
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:27 pm | |
| - Ed wrote:
- Rau for Simplicio must be a joke... really... I mean come on, how idiotic would that be? Zamparini reckons he's so gracious to be eyeing up a straight swap with no cash involved as they have enough funds... yeah thanks Mr...
Would be an amazing blunder from us. | |
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Ed Curva Nord
Number of posts : 688 Age : 42 Country and city : England, Cambridge Laziale since : 1998 Registration date : 2008-07-23
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:38 pm | |
| Too true Bridge-Bhoy, I only saw this rumour from your post further up and then it seemed to be everywhere. I hope it doesn't become a case of Radu thinking he won't play enough, like De Silvestri, and so begins to instigate a move, then we are in trouble. It's pretty clear that Radu has got a chance of becoming a really good player for us, I hope we don't throw away that chance just to get one of Ballrdini's favourites. | |
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LazioS70 Curva Nord
Number of posts : 859 Age : 37 Country and city : Estonia Laziale since : 2000 Registration date : 2008-06-01
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:50 pm | |
| First of all...to all who you are nagging on our management.......The only signing which made the difference from last year was get rid of fucking delio rossi and replace him with Ballardini. As i see mr rossiass is now out of duty and licks his ass.....did anyone really think hes gonna be a manager of a bigger team than Lazio..... We have a decent team and youngsters like de silvestri can go if they cant wait their time....Lichty is far better than him and the only solution is to get away and be mad...what a loser.....sometimes challenging for the position makes you try do things better and you will succeed. But i am still worried that we need Ledesma and Pandev in the team...sad that they think they are the world...I hope they will respect the shirt and see that this team as potential winning trophys....
FORZA LAZIO!!!!! | |
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Kurama_SSLazio Curva Nord
Number of posts : 827 Age : 36 Country and city : Romania, Bucharest Laziale since : 1997 Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:00 am | |
| Guys, we don`t have central defenders. This is my real concern .... and we sold Rozehnal as well... jesus man. What the hell are they doing. They are blind or something ? We will have the same problem as in the past .. we can`t rely on Zarate, Rocchi and Pandev to gain points .... | |
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Caxi Son of Maestrelli
Number of posts : 3884 Age : 35 Country and city : Ireland Laziale since : 1995 Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:16 am | |
| - Ed wrote:
- Rau for Simplicio must be a joke... really... I mean come on, how idiotic would that be? Zamparini reckons he's so gracious to be eyeing up a straight swap with no cash involved as they have enough funds... yeah thanks Mr...
We admitted we were keen on him weeks ago and Zamp set a price of 6 million. I believe we spent our transfer budget but now we have 5 million from the Rozehnal sale. For that reason, I think either Zamp is luring us into bidding for Simplicio with his new cash or we are attempting to sign the Brazilian. Zamp is nuts, but the fact he is touting his own player perhaps indicates that he is available for sale. | |
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Dejan Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 274 Age : 43 Country and city : Serbia Laziale since : 1900 Registration date : 2008-08-31
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:48 am | |
| Cruz will sign for us tommorow one year contract. | |
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Danish-Laziofan Curva Maestrelli
Number of posts : 360 Age : 34 Country and city : Denmark, Humlebæk Laziale since : 1996 Registration date : 2008-05-22
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:49 am | |
| - Dejan wrote:
- Cruz will sign for us tommorow one year contract.
Not only that (OK,it could be better!!), but it also seems Bengtsson will sign with us | |
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aDDi Aquilotto
Number of posts : 48 Age : 38 Country and city : Canada, Montreal Laziale since : 1998 Registration date : 2008-05-24
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:13 am | |
| - Dejan wrote:
- Cruz will sign for us tommorow one year contract.
Sourse please? | |
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Caxi Son of Maestrelli
Number of posts : 3884 Age : 35 Country and city : Ireland Laziale since : 1995 Registration date : 2008-05-23
| Subject: Re: Transfers and rumours 08 09 section 3 Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:38 am | |
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