Number of posts : 484 Age : 40 Country and city : Macedonia Laziale since : 1998 Registration date : 2008-05-28
Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:51 pm
heheh...i don't know why i still talk in this subject again,n again, n again...well now i will say just short : "he does not want to play for peanut" ...he ask new contract in winter when: Rocchi, Zarate, Brocchi, Dabo,.....take 3-4 times more money than him...and he did'nt get it!!!. i won't talk about Pandev anymore.
first two r Pandev goals against Spain
Caxi Son of Maestrelli
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:04 pm
c. testa wrote:
zoran wrote:
first of all - its not true that Pandev doesnt want to play for Lazio...
Didn't he ask to leave, rejecting Lotito's new contract offer?
According to his agent, yes.
LazioSS Curva Maestrelli
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:14 pm
Goran just back your bags and go. I had so much respect 4 u, but not anymore!
martinese Curva Nord
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:28 pm
LazioSS wrote:
Goran just back your bags and go. I had so much respect 4 u, but not anymore!
And why ? Because he wants to play in CL ? He was loyal to Lazio for 5 years and gave a lot to the club and the club gave a lot to him. He showed that he loves the club when he said that he wants Lazio to take money from his transfer and he doesn't want to leave as a free agent. He gave us so much and you say you don't respect him ? Your crazy!
I wish him all the best in the future and I hope he wins the CL some day. For me he is a legend and thats why I have a Lazio shirt with his name on it! FORZA GORAN!
blue-white Curva Maestrelli
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:32 pm
Quote :
Goran just back your bags and go. I had so much respect 4 u, but not anymore!
I also canīt accept this.
I always said, that when he wants to leave - he shpould leave. We donīt need players who have their brain at other teams and not at Lazio.
BUT, I always respected him, and I always will respect him. He did so much for the club, so I donīt understand when you say that you donīt have respect anymore.
Like martinese said - this is crazy.
Always respect - but he should leave when he wants to.
LazioSS Curva Maestrelli
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:18 am
He gave us so much and you say you don't respect him ? Your crazy!
He did alot for Lazio and that is true but we also have to remember that Lazio has done alot for pandev aswel! I just dont understand why he is doing this at the last year of his contarct this way he is forcing lazio to selling him for nothing. Teams such as juve, arsenal, fiorentina, etc do not want to make a bid in hope that they can get his on a free in jan. And plz dont start with how he wanted a new deal in jan and lotito didnt offer one. As I have said I had alot of respect but my opinion has changed, I am sorry put thats how I feel!
flurffmeister Curva Maestrelli
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:06 pm
zoran wrote:
heheh...i don't know why i still talk in this subject again,n again, n again...well now i will say just short : "he does not want to play for peanut" ...he ask new contract in winter when: Rocchi, Zarate, Brocchi, Dabo,.....take 3-4 times more money than him...and he did'nt get it!!!. i won't talk about Pandev anymore.
first two r Pandev goals against Spain
you have to know that Goran has not been forgotten by Lotito ! he suggested extension of contract last season , but there are in life priorities if Pandev is loyal enough he would have waited , but he got Greedy ! he surely deserve a salary equal to Zarate and Rocchi no one doubts it ! but thats not the case ! he couldnt wait and used this whole story because he thought big clubs were after him but it was all rumours no one really want him !
flurffmeister Curva Maestrelli
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:08 pm
And for our Macedonians friends , i ask you to think not as Macedonians just think as Laziali instead in this Pandev case .
Secret_Samadhi Curva Nord
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:04 pm
Every player that wants out, then he should leave. Lazio lost much better players then Pandev in the last years and we allways survived. Goran got gredy, dreaming of Bayern, Juve etc when in the real life only Napoli and Palermo got really interested in him.
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:33 pm
flurffmeister wrote:
And for our Macedonians friends , i ask you to think not as Macedonians just think as Laziali instead in this Pandev case .
Flurff... Which player worth 19.000.000 euros in his last year of contract apart from Messi and Ronaldo?
LazioS70 Curva Nord
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:05 pm
Zenit wont pay even 10 millions for him...He really thought hes going to be hunted by real and bayern, juve..........Hes a rich man...its time to buy himself out....
phantomm1976 Curva Nord
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:31 pm
even if zenith pay 10-15 ... for him,i dont think that he will go there,he had "big ambicion",and problem is that we can not sale him,he dont want new deal....september is for two weeks
Ed Curva Nord
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:34 pm
Goran Pandev is taking legal action against Lazio, accusing the club of bullying by freezing him out of the squad over a contract dispute.
The striker had said he was open to a transfer, but when the offers that came in did not match his price-tag, he was left out of the Italian Super Cup and Europa League squads.
Lawyer Mattia Grassani told Sky Italia television that he had sent a telegram warning Lazio to put Pandev back in the side within three days.
If this situation were to continue and Pandev left out not because of physical issues nor a decision by the Coach, then this behaviour could be considered a case of bullying.
It is like a musician who takes part in all the rehearsals and yet is never invited to the theatre to play.
Pandev is one of three so-called dissidents who are in this situation, the others being Cristian Ledesma and Lorenzo De Silvestri.
As far as we are concerned, there is and always has been common ground on which we would be willing to meet Lazio.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Interesting to note the last point, although everything else is denied by Lotito who states, quite rightly, that Pandev isn't in the Europa squad so hasn't been involved in training with the 'first-team'. Wether he is bought back in to the squad or not is anyones guess, if we don't sell him then would it be mad to have a player of his ability out of the squad, regardless of debatable motivation? The problem is that Ballardini was quite right not to include him as he was under the impression that Pandev would leave. However, he was involved in most of the pre-season games before the Supercoppa and seemed to be doing OK in training. Whatever else, it does seem to indicate that there has always been the possibility of Pandev remaining and playing, he has a contract after all.
Bridge-Bhoy Curva Nord
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:11 pm
This would be the last thing the club needs, we just have to sell him, hopefully Zenit do come back in for him.
Caxi Son of Maestrelli
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:16 pm
Not sure I care too much, I can't see what grounds his lawyer has.
lazio365 Curva Maestrelli
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:34 pm
Neither can I. So sick and tired of this saga.
Jofo Forum Maister
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:46 pm
Ed wrote:
Interesting to note the last point, although everything else is denied by Lotito who states, quite rightly, that Pandev isn't in the Europa squad so hasn't been involved in training with the 'first-team'. Wether he is bought back in to the squad or not is anyones guess, if we don't sell him then would it be mad to have a player of his ability out of the squad, regardless of debatable motivation? The problem is that Ballardini was quite right not to include him as he was under the impression that Pandev would leave. However, he was involved in most of the pre-season games before the Supercoppa and seemed to be doing OK in training. Whatever else, it does seem to indicate that there has always been the possibility of Pandev remaining and playing, he has a contract after all.
Agreed, I mean I can't understand Lotito. If he wants to go then sell him and get some money if not then keep him but what is the purpose of keeping him if he is out of the squad. I don't get it really. He will be free next summer and can go wherever he wants.
Caput Mundi LFever Team Member
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:58 pm
Jofo wrote:
Ed wrote:
Interesting to note the last point, although everything else is denied by Lotito who states, quite rightly, that Pandev isn't in the Europa squad so hasn't been involved in training with the 'first-team'. Wether he is bought back in to the squad or not is anyones guess, if we don't sell him then would it be mad to have a player of his ability out of the squad, regardless of debatable motivation? The problem is that Ballardini was quite right not to include him as he was under the impression that Pandev would leave. However, he was involved in most of the pre-season games before the Supercoppa and seemed to be doing OK in training. Whatever else, it does seem to indicate that there has always been the possibility of Pandev remaining and playing, he has a contract after all.
Agreed, I mean I can't understand Lotito. If he wants to go then sell him and get some money if not then keep him but what is the purpose of keeping him if he is out of the squad. I don't get it really. He will be free next summer and can go wherever he wants.
If no one makes a suitable offer, how can Lotito sell him? When a team comes up with the money that Lotito wants, Lotito will sell. Until then, enjoy the view from the tribuna Goran, pezzo de merda.
The fact that he is launching these legal threats does more damage to his own situation than Lazio, especially as Lotito is honouring his contract.
Caxi Son of Maestrelli
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:05 pm
Apparently in Macedonia, the word is that Pandev wanted to stay in Italy all along to gain Italian citizenship and now that no italian side wants him, he is willing to stay and leave for free as an EU player.
I completely missed that dimension of the scenario; not having an EU passport makes him a no-go for many clubs and to rub salt into our wounds, he could have it by next season and move for free.
This is dire...can any of our Macedonian friends confirm this?
Giolazio LFever Team Member
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:24 pm
The very least the guy can do is sign a new contract with a buy out clause of 12m, gain his citizenship then leave.
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:46 pm
Caxi wrote:
Apparently in Macedonia, the word is that Pandev wanted to stay in Italy all along to gain Italian citizenship and now that no italian side wants him, he is willing to stay and leave for free as an EU player.
I completely missed that dimension of the scenario; not having an EU passport makes him a no-go for many clubs and to rub salt into our wounds, he could have it by next season and move for free.
This is dire...can any of our Macedonian friends confirm this?
Well any day he expecting to gain itallian citizenship... Thats why he prefers going to Juventus... He will still play in CL and he will stay in Italy... At the moment he take EU passport going to Juventus will be no longer his priority... But this are all just speculation... Anyway...
C.Testa said "If no one makes a suitable offer, how can Lotito sell him?" so tell me testa.. is 19.000.000 for a player that has one year left of his contract... or exact 9 mounts because in may the season will be over... is that sum a suitable??? HELL NOO... If I'm a president of some club I will sign Pandev for free on pre-contract... Pandev was our best player in pre-season... Frozing out from the team was unneccecery and stupid thing to do... If you thinking like then you would have put Ronaldo on bench for entire season if you were a Chairman of man Utd??? Its stupid....
Caxi Son of Maestrelli
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:08 pm
Yes, 19mil was a ridiculous price, in fact, half that is ridiculous but many laziali in this forum supported that move believing we may get that money and believing we should take the risk and look for it.
I think it's now fair to say, that was the wrong move and of course nobody wants to negotiate with Lotito as a result and would rather wait to January; that's how it goes.
I think Pandev will go to Zenit if that EU citizenship comes through; I wonder if Claudio has any sway there...
Jofo Forum Maister
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:38 am
I'm just afraid that he'll leave for free.
flurffmeister Curva Maestrelli
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:39 am
NITRO wrote:
Caxi wrote:
Apparently in Macedonia, the word is that Pandev wanted to stay in Italy all along to gain Italian citizenship and now that no italian side wants him, he is willing to stay and leave for free as an EU player.
I completely missed that dimension of the scenario; not having an EU passport makes him a no-go for many clubs and to rub salt into our wounds, he could have it by next season and move for free.
This is dire...can any of our Macedonian friends confirm this?
Well any day he expecting to gain itallian citizenship... Thats why he prefers going to Juventus... He will still play in CL and he will stay in Italy... At the moment he take EU passport going to Juventus will be no longer his priority... But this are all just speculation... Anyway...
C.Testa said "If no one makes a suitable offer, how can Lotito sell him?" so tell me testa.. is 19.000.000 for a player that has one year left of his contract... or exact 9 mounts because in may the season will be over... is that sum a suitable??? HELL NOO... If I'm a president of some club I will sign Pandev for free on pre-contract... Pandev was our best player in pre-season... Frozing out from the team was unneccecery and stupid thing to do... If you thinking like then you would have put Ronaldo on bench for entire season if you were a Chairman of man Utd??? Its stupid....
if he does so ! i bet Lotito will do a new Rodrigo Taddei vs Siena round.
LazioSS Curva Maestrelli
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Subject: Re: Goran Pandev Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:28 am
Man am just tired of this pandev issue. I really dont care what happends anymore even if he leaves for free I would be happy as long as this bastard get out of Lazio as soon as possible.