2009/10 UEFA Champions League

Enjoyed the Lyon vs Madrid game, and the result as well. Sweet goal by Makoun. Lyon unlucky not to get another one though. Delgado had a terrific volley hit the bar in the first half and Lisandro should have done better following Casillas' poor clearance. Higuain also missed a good opportunity for Real on the counter. Should be a good second leg.

I on the other hand enjoyed the Milanmerda - ManU game.
Firstly because of the result.
Second, the way the game started and the first hal alltogether suggested a different outcome. So a good game to watch full of twists and turns.

What I didn't enjoy was the incredible luck for ManU. I mean wf with the first goal. Also, the ref totally looked the other way when Rio fouled Ronnie on that break. That was a straight red even though the foul was outside the box.

It will be an interesting return leg.

sile wrote
It will be an interesting return leg.
i dont thinks so my friend,milan will just go to visit the city of manchester,nothing else

Sile wrote:

I on the other hand enjoyed the Milanmerda - ManU game.
Firstly because of the result.
Second, the way the game started and the first hal alltogether suggested a different outcome. So a good game to watch full of twists and turns.

What I didn't enjoy was the incredible luck for ManU. I mean wf with the first goal. Also, the ref totally looked the other way when Rio fouled Ronnie on that break. That was a straight red even though the foul was outside the box.

It will be an interesting return leg.

I agree, United don't handle quick possession play and Milan were superb at times. Could have had the tie wrapped up in the first half.

Although it will be difficult, near impossible, I wouldn't rule Milan out for the second game. If they handle Rooney better and take their chances, they only have to put in about 75% of last night's performance.

Was it Fletcher or Carrick who got Fergie so pissed after the equalising goal?

Honestly I see no realistic way of Milan progressing. Especially if Vidic returns to the pitch. Rio will be well rested and after last night I believe Valencia will take over from Nani in the return leg.
On the opposite side i believe Huntelaar will make way for Boriello and Milan will try to push hard and attack. Not easy at old Trafford, but doable.

All things considered it would have been a done deal if Seedorf's masterpiece was blocked in some way. Now it is still open and you can never rule out Milan.

what a big referys mistakes in bayern viola game,shame,excpecialy for that refery in left side,clear doublle ofside,and the red card(no comment)

Sile wrote:

Was it Fletcher or Carrick who got Fergie so pissed after the equalising goal?

Honestly I see no realistic way of Milan progressing. Especially if Vidic returns to the pitch. Rio will be well rested and after last night I believe Valencia will take over from Nani in the return leg.
On the opposite side i believe Huntelaar will make way for Boriello and Milan will try to push hard and attack. Not easy at old Trafford, but doable.

All things considered it would have been a done deal if Seedorf's masterpiece was blocked in some way. Now it is still open and you can never rule out Milan.

Sile, I think that Fergie was mad at Evans for some reason.. And for the second game I personally don't think that Vidic will get his chance, he has angered the old boss so, knowing how stubborn Ferguson is pretty hard to expect that.. The game is over in my opinion, but, we'll see!

Anyway I'm so happy about Porto win against Arsenal.. Hate those mf!

both games tonight had too many ref mistakes...

Bayern: 200% off-side at the second goal but it was not double offside. at the first shot the player is on side. the red card is toooooooo much exaggerated. Bomel had to be sent off the first half. if not the first he could be sent off the second one. He got one yellow card and for the same fould 5 mins later he didn't get anything. plus 3-4 times he dived trying to get a faul.


Porto: before porto attacked for that controversial goal there was a penalty against rosicky. then he awards the free kick. that freek kick could even be passed cause you can clearly see Campbell just trips and touches the ball un-intentionally. then the ref passes the ball to the porto player and blocks campbel. WTF!

and that dude Fabiansky must be benched for the rest of his life.

not to mention I had bet on draw on both games.....

Roman_Eagle wrote:

both games tonight had too many ref mistakes...

The respective referees were:

Tom Henning Ovrebo: (Chelsea - Barca official, CL last season)
Martin Hansson (Ireland - France leg 2. WC play-off)

What did you expect?

@Roman_Eagle: I totally disagree on van Bommel needed to be sent off in the first half. I think the yellow card was correct, in the end we don't play chess here. However the goal was more than obvious scored in offside position, Klose should have been sent off minutes earlier and Gobbi's red card was way too harsh. Yellow would have been fine, although his foul was stupid to begin with. Then, when Bayern got the penalty in the first half, the ref should have given the advantage to Bayern (Gomez scored). In case of a penalty he forgot to show a yellow card as well.

In the end, I think both referees should just not be part of the CL rotation anymore. They have shown various times, that they are just not up to the task. But what do you expect? If I remember correctly Hansson was even nominated for the World Cup. They gotta be kidding me...

Blatter and Platini are the worst thing ever for football. Just see what the French dwarf did to the EURO tournament. Soon we will have 24 teams there, half of the UEFA teams will qualify. Now that makes sense as well.

Caxi wrote:

Roman_Eagle wrote:

both games tonight had too many ref mistakes...

The respective referees were:

Tom Henning Ovrebo: (Chelsea - Barca official, CL last season)
Martin Hansson (Ireland - France leg 2. WC play-off)

What did you expect?

great observation.

Il Capitano wrote:

Blatter and Platini are the worst thing ever for football. Just see what the French dwarf did to the EURO tournament. Soon we will have 24 teams there, half of the UEFA teams will qualify. Now that makes sense as well.

Agree!! those 2 Mo**Fu** should stay away from the world of football!! Does anybody know when are the next UEFA and FIFA elections going to be held?

Caxi wrote:

Roman_Eagle wrote:

both games tonight had too many ref mistakes...

The respective referees were:

Tom Henning Ovrebo: (Chelsea - Barca official, CL last season)
Martin Hansson (Ireland - France leg 2. WC play-off)

What did you expect?

ovrebo i recognized ofc but the other dude I didn't until now :)

@Il Capitano: Why shouldn't he be sent off? He did the same foul as the one he got a card for 5-10 mins later and nothing? plus the 3-4 dives he did....a perfect second yellow. agree that the gomez' goal should be awarded and a yellow card for the PK

on the off-side goal: I think we can blame the assistant ref. IMO he didn't have the guts to put up the flag, cause you can clearly see on the repeats of the situation he's at the same line as klose so he can see for sure he's off-side. but no balls.....

No balls to do his job and work honestly? Well, that's a shame then since I doubt Bayern put him under pressure. Indeed I got to blame the assistant and IMO even the referee should have seen it, it was two f***ing meters offside!!! Maybe I missed another foul by van Bommel, I though you were talking about the one where he got a yellow card.

@Broencoceleste: Don't worry, Blatter and Platini will be elected again.

Both referees in todays were complete and utterly incompetant. How on Earth are they referees or in Scandinavian do they see football differently?! Both made massive errors which could cost Fiorentina and Arsenal a place in the quater finals. Why on Earth was not Klose sent off when Gobbi was? And why the hell was the offside goal allowed to stand? It was absolutely blatant. They should ban Scandinavian referees alltogether. They are all absolutely not up to the standard of top European football.

Il Capitano wrote:

No balls to do his job and work honestly? Well, that's a shame then since I doubt Bayern put him under pressure. Indeed I got to blame the assistant and IMO even the referee should have seen it, it was two f***ing meters offside!!! Maybe I missed another foul by van Bommel, I though you were talking about the one where he got a yellow card.

yeah mate, there was a second foul like the first one. and I completely forgot the klose foul - anyone saw Villa - Man utd ? Nani was sent off for a challenge like this. and I didn't mean Bayern put him under pressure. The game puts him under pressure. and he cracked.

Taib wrote:

Both referees in todays were complete and utterly incompetant. How on Earth are they referees or in Scandinavian do they see football differently?! Both made massive errors which could cost Fiorentina and Arsenal a place in the quater finals. Why on Earth was not Klose sent off when Gobbi was? And why the hell was the offside goal allowed to stand? It was absolutely blatant. They should ban Scandinavian referees alltogether. They are all absolutely not up to the standard of top European football.

I remember Anders Frisk from Sweden and Kim Milton Nielsen from Denmark being top-notch referees, both from Scandinavia. I think it just depends on the quality of the referee. If you nominate those referee's for the World Cup, well, then there must be aware of the fact that those things could happen again...

Saw highlights of Porto vs Arsenal. Fabianski's mistakes were very amateur. You've got to feel for the guy. Arsene really hasn't had the best goalkeepers - especially this season. Mannone and Almunia have also both choked big time.

Il Capitano wrote:

Taib wrote:

Both referees in todays were complete and utterly incompetant. How on Earth are they referees or in Scandinavian do they see football differently?! Both made massive errors which could cost Fiorentina and Arsenal a place in the quater finals. Why on Earth was not Klose sent off when Gobbi was? And why the hell was the offside goal allowed to stand? It was absolutely blatant. They should ban Scandinavian referees alltogether. They are all absolutely not up to the standard of top European football.

I remember Anders Frisk from Sweden and Kim Milton Nielsen from Denmark being top-notch referees, both from Scandinavia. I think it just depends on the quality of the referee. If you nominate those referee's for the World Cup, well, then there must be aware of the fact that those things could happen again...

Agree. Nielsen was very good but Frisk, for me at least, has been one of the best referees in recent years. Its all down to quality. And refs like Ovrebo and Hansson shouldn't be officiating in such competitions. The offside Klose goal was a joke to say the least - but then again, the linesman should be the one held more responsible for that poor decision.

Hey, what's wrong with you??
Here is the proof that Klose's goal was absolutely correct, no offside at all:



So why are you blaming the ref...he did a great job, because not every ref will be able to judge such situations like that!!

That line is crooked as hell, by the way shouldn't it line up with Assistant Referee. Seems a bit suspicious in that sense.

A Roma Solo La Lazio wrote:

That line is crooked as hell, by the way shouldn't it line up with Assistant Referee. Seems a bit suspicious in that sense.

It's all a part of the new football rules promoted by Blatter and Platini. Basically that line is in accordance with the rules, also referee's discretion is extended to obvious hand-balls and arbitrary red cards. As you can see the referees are up to date with the newest rules.

Awesome referee yesterday again during Inter-Chelsea. At least one clear penalty (plus red card) not given for Chelsea and the foul was damn obvious. I want instant replay, NOW!!!

Il Capitano wrote:

Awesome referee yesterday again during Inter-Chelsea. At least one clear penalty (plus red card) not given for Chelsea and the foul was damn obvious. I want instant replay, NOW!!!

+1 .... a clear PK!..... third time in a row I lose money because of the refs :) I had money on draw :) and it was going to be a draw but... Pandev came of the bench..didn't do anything

Il Capitano wrote:

Taib wrote:

Both referees in todays were complete and utterly incompetant. How on Earth are they referees or in Scandinavian do they see football differently?! Both made massive errors which could cost Fiorentina and Arsenal a place in the quater finals. Why on Earth was not Klose sent off when Gobbi was? And why the hell was the offside goal allowed to stand? It was absolutely blatant. They should ban Scandinavian referees alltogether. They are all absolutely not up to the standard of top European football.

I remember Anders Frisk from Sweden and Kim Milton Nielsen from Denmark being top-notch referees, both from Scandinavia. I think it just depends on the quality of the referee. If you nominate those referee's for the World Cup, well, then there must be aware of the fact that those things could happen again...

I also remember what happenned to Frisk. Nielson, an exception to the rule. Believe it or not I also think it just depends on the quality of the referee and on the scale of things Scandanavians referees should not officiate UEFA or FIFA matches because they are not good enough. If those two morons are the best that Norway and Sweden have to offer then one has to wonder how utterly abysmal the rest are. I do not want to even imagine it.

Kalou was going to ground long before Samuel touched him in my opinion. I don't think there was enough contact to bring him down under normal circumstances, at least not as quickly as the player fell. So, ref got that one right for me.